VBC Lightning 12
#181

Build is great. I had some fitting to do on the front arms to get them to move smoothly. They were a bit tight. A little sanding and then polishing and everything is moving nicely.
I LOVE:
1. The front kingpins! SO glad to be done with e-clips!
2. The shock (though it took a while to get it without a ton of rebound - I would like to hear from the team guys on their shock build process)
3. The diff is SUPER smooth (even better with the slapmaster thrust bearing).
Not so crazy about:
1. No rollover antenna (sorry to keep harping on this, I'm a purist)
Couple of observations/questions
- WOW that rear brace is thick? 5mm is it?
- What are the two empty countersunk holes for just ahead of the rear end?
- I trimmed the outside battery stops and will post pics as soon as the build is complete.
I've owned a LOT of 12th scales over the years. This is my favorite to build.
I LOVE:
1. The front kingpins! SO glad to be done with e-clips!
2. The shock (though it took a while to get it without a ton of rebound - I would like to hear from the team guys on their shock build process)
3. The diff is SUPER smooth (even better with the slapmaster thrust bearing).
Not so crazy about:
1. No rollover antenna (sorry to keep harping on this, I'm a purist)
Couple of observations/questions
- WOW that rear brace is thick? 5mm is it?
- What are the two empty countersunk holes for just ahead of the rear end?
- I trimmed the outside battery stops and will post pics as soon as the build is complete.
I've owned a LOT of 12th scales over the years. This is my favorite to build.
#182
Tech Master
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Those two countersunk holes are used for battery stops if you run the battery transverse. Basically, use two short M3 screws with a normal 5.5 mm nut and they will help hold the battery in place and prevent it from sliding backwards.
EDIT: And for whatever little it is worth, I haven't figured out the ideal way to build the center shock yet, either. My first attempt was pretty good, but I would like to refine the technique a little before I post anything.
Last edited by LloydLoar; 11-27-2013 at 10:22 AM.
#184

For building the shock...here's what I finally came up with.
- Soak the two internal o-rings in oil for a bit to allow them to swell properly
- Build the shock shaft/piston assembly and install it into the body.
- Add the bottom o-ring, plastic bushing then cap
- Thread on the ball end to the shock shaft
- Fill the shock body with oil removing all bubbles (haven't figured out how high to fill the body yet)
- Add the shock bushing piece to the shock body and push down with an allen driver gently
- Insert the o-ring into the plastic shock cap/seal
- push the shock shaft all the way in and install the plastic cap (oil went everywhere for me so I used too much oil)
- start screwing on the cap allowing oil to seep from the top
- At this point you'll have quite a bit of rebound so to get that out, unscrew the bottom seal and SLOWLY work the piston back into the shock body to bleed the shock
- tighten and repeat the above 2 steps till you get the rebound you're looking for (almost nothing for me, just smooth shock movement)
- add the spring and retainer and install on the car
Not the easiest shock I've ever worked with but at least I didn't strip the cap like I did on my Associated car (that was not a good shock cap)
- Soak the two internal o-rings in oil for a bit to allow them to swell properly
- Build the shock shaft/piston assembly and install it into the body.
- Add the bottom o-ring, plastic bushing then cap
- Thread on the ball end to the shock shaft
- Fill the shock body with oil removing all bubbles (haven't figured out how high to fill the body yet)
- Add the shock bushing piece to the shock body and push down with an allen driver gently
- Insert the o-ring into the plastic shock cap/seal
- push the shock shaft all the way in and install the plastic cap (oil went everywhere for me so I used too much oil)
- start screwing on the cap allowing oil to seep from the top
- At this point you'll have quite a bit of rebound so to get that out, unscrew the bottom seal and SLOWLY work the piston back into the shock body to bleed the shock
- tighten and repeat the above 2 steps till you get the rebound you're looking for (almost nothing for me, just smooth shock movement)
- add the spring and retainer and install on the car
Not the easiest shock I've ever worked with but at least I didn't strip the cap like I did on my Associated car (that was not a good shock cap)
#187
Tech Fanatic
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I had no issues, but did use a Tamiya shock pump to vac all the air out of the shock.
Great rear shock, way nicer that the Tamiya RM01x shock. In comparison the RM is a huge disappointment overall.
#189

No, but I was intrigued by the conversation.
But there are two major purposes for a through-shaft damper:
- Better handling of side-loads by supporting the shaft at both ends.
- Removing the "rebound" effect that comes from the changing volume occupied by the shock shaft as it moves in and out. With the through-shaft damper, the volume taken by the shaft is constant.
My AME T-Shox don't have rebound without a rebound spring. So I'm curious where the rebound comes from. But I could very well be missing something, because I've only looked at the manual.
-Mike
But there are two major purposes for a through-shaft damper:
- Better handling of side-loads by supporting the shaft at both ends.
- Removing the "rebound" effect that comes from the changing volume occupied by the shock shaft as it moves in and out. With the through-shaft damper, the volume taken by the shaft is constant.
My AME T-Shox don't have rebound without a rebound spring. So I'm curious where the rebound comes from. But I could very well be missing something, because I've only looked at the manual.
-Mike