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kentech 08-10-2013 12:01 AM

Tamiya TRF418
 
As expected it's coming, first info available now, more will surely follow soon.

42270 TRF418 Chassis Kit
- will be displayed at the Tokyo Hobby Show September 16/17
- to be released November/December as usual
- list price in Japan to be 83790 yen (same as TRF417V5)

I posted what I have seen so far at http://kentech.blogs.se/

patorz31 08-10-2013 12:11 AM

About damn time!!!

grooveman 08-10-2013 03:55 AM

Tamiya ??????



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3jnL5UoWIS...1img_37251.jpg

addicted2blue 08-10-2013 05:30 AM

This will not be the next TRF418, it's a selfmade car from a guy from finland.
Atleast that's what i've heard about the car in the picture, also the car showed up about 2 years ago on a ETS race.

Very curious though about the new TRF418, that maybe my next TRF chassis for next years season.

Dan 08-10-2013 05:34 AM

Probably expect Tamiya's version of the Raceberry TRF417.

Qatmix 08-10-2013 05:38 AM

Update : Build and review here

http://www.thercracer.com/2014/01/ta...nd-review.html
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Seen a pic of prototype car racing at the Japanese National, didnt think it would be a 418 looks like a low profile 417v5. Hopefully he will let me post it.

I hope the final version is quite different.

I have some shots of the cars at the race with the tops on, maybe if you squint you can see something :)

http://www.thercracer.com/2013/08/ta...first-pic.html

Photos of the chassis at the Sept Tamiya Show

http://www.thercracer.com/2013/09/ta...ures-from.html

NItrox416 08-10-2013 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by Dan (Post 12432900)
Probably expect Tamiya's version of the Raceberry TRF417.

No I don't think so, maybe some parts like the motor mount will be on this car,
I think they focused on geometry of suspension because the problems were there.

ThePanda 08-10-2013 07:09 AM

Whatever way they go expect it to be a kick a** car. Gotta love Tamiya:lol:.

syndr0me 08-10-2013 08:19 AM

Wow, new arms? They're not just reusing parts from old cars this time around. Very excited to see what they come up with.

Racing4Evo 08-10-2013 08:55 AM

Finally new arms! Sounds like a major overhaul.

Smartypants 08-10-2013 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Qatmix (Post 12432912)
Seen a pic of prototype car racing at the Japanese National, didnt think it would be a 418 looks like a low profile 417v5. Hopefully he will let me post it.

I hope the final version is quite different, that will be nice.

**HERE is the pic

http://www.thercracer.com/2013/08/ta...first-pic.html


Your photo is a dodgy photoshop of the below picture which was taken a while back. I don't think this is it but i suppose you never know....

Qatmix 08-10-2013 03:20 PM

Yep, that looks like I was given a dud pic, I will call it out on the blog post that its a fake (I posted it in good faith), there are some differences on that pic to a std 417 though, like the arms and C hubs

syndr0me 08-10-2013 09:37 PM

I don't see new gear diff on the list. Hopefully new bulkheads mean new gear diff, because the current one is the worst on the market.

macavant 08-10-2013 10:42 PM

2 new TRF models in 1 year - cool.
Subscribed.

Qatmix 08-10-2013 10:47 PM

What's the problem with the gear diff? Using the steel gears an kyosho O-rings makes it strong and leak free.
http://www.thercracer.com/2013/07/ho...-diff.html?m=0

I've been doing the above for a while and for diffs in my buggy (5.5t) and TC although I only run 13.5 / 17.5 normally in TC, Is it a mod thing?

Josh-n-ya 08-10-2013 11:01 PM

I wonder if they will go with the lower shock towers and shorty shocks like most newer cars coming out! Also does anybody know if the TRF Works Damper set for M chassis work on the T4 and other shorty shock cars?

Smartypants 08-11-2013 02:59 AM


Originally Posted by syndr0me (Post 12434897)
I don't see new gear diff on the list. Hopefully new bulkheads mean new gear diff, because the current one is the worst on the market.

Nothing wrong with the v2 diff's With the kyosho o rings.

rayrush 08-11-2013 07:33 AM

I havent had a drama with the gear diffs either.

syndr0me 08-11-2013 10:05 AM

Clearly you guys have never used a good gear diff.

Smartypants 08-11-2013 10:21 AM

Why don't you buy another manufacturers car and stopping your bitching.

Every other post you seem to be moaning about something!

patorz31 08-11-2013 10:43 AM

It is what he does in every thread about a trf product. Then he wants everyone to go to 5280 raceway. The other guys that race there should tell this guy to STFU, i am never taking my TRFs to race there, he is probably worse in person.

syndr0me 08-11-2013 11:10 AM

:lol:

syndr0me 08-11-2013 11:22 AM

I'm a potential buyer just like anybody else. I currently own 5 TRF sedans. That could easily become 6. One thing that will factor into my decision is whether or not they address the issues I had with the 417 which includes its very mediocre gear diff.

It's just some honesty from someone that competes at a high level and expects certain things from his equipment. Like a diff that doesn't leak. If that hurts your feelings, well... too bad.

CraigM 08-11-2013 03:09 PM

It hurts my feelings :cry:

The gear diff is seriously fine if you use kyosho orings and better shims, BUT I agree you shouldn't have to do that. I also agree that my best tamiya gear diff is still worse than any xray gear diff.

Regardless, I'm looking forward to seeing this car. I'm a bit suspicious of the translation about the suspension components being different, I think it may just be referring to the use of the shorter shocks from the TB04. Time will tell!

rayrush 08-11-2013 08:09 PM

Must admit i don't like the fact that i have to use kyosho orings for them to be their best and also that the arms need sanding for correct fit. But i love the car.

Skiddins 08-12-2013 02:15 AM

Can I ask how people can say that a diff is great/good/fine, and then mention that they have had to fit someone else's O-rings to make it so.
If parts have had to be changed from standard surely there is an issue :confused:

I'm interested to see what they do with the next car as out of the small group of friends who race against eachother, two have Tamiya 417v5's

Skiddins

Smartypants 08-12-2013 02:41 AM


Originally Posted by Skiddins (Post 12438101)
Can I ask how people can say that a diff is great/good/fine, and then mention that they have had to fit someone else's O-rings to make it so.
If parts have had to be changed from standard surely there is an issue :confused:

I'm interested to see what they do with the next car as out of the small group of friends who race against eachother, two have Tamiya 417v5's

Skiddins

You say that but Yokomo team guys use the same orings in their diffs too ;) and maybe other manufacturers do the same and OEM them who knows, who cares anyway lets get back on topic TRF418

Maybe ? Guess we will just have to wait until the end of September to find out.....
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...07855088_n.jpg

artwork 08-12-2013 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by patorz31 (Post 12436046)
It is what he does in every thread about a trf product. Then he wants everyone to go to 5280 raceway. The other guys that race there should tell this guy to STFU, i am never taking my TRFs to race there, he is probably worse in person.

Actually, he is one of the nicest people you will meet in RC...Everyone at 5280 goes out of their way to help people and help drivers improve. Like other have said...the gear diff is something that needs to be improved and if you cannot see that then either you are not being objective or do not have enough experience to know the difference. Either way...why don't you come on down to 5280 and we can see just how fast you are.

While you are here I can help you clean the diff oil spray from the inside of the body!

Smartypants 08-13-2013 04:12 AM


Originally Posted by artwork (Post 12438721)
Either way...why don't you come on down to 5280 and we can see just how fast you are.

Would love too but your the otherside of the pond for me!

losi888 08-13-2013 03:58 PM

Any info on what the updates are going to be.

syndr0me 08-14-2013 02:35 PM

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rFq8ZFY2lR...yshot+edit.png

grippgoat 08-14-2013 03:31 PM

What's that blue thing going across in front of the front diff?

-Mike

narcotiks 08-15-2013 12:18 AM


Originally Posted by grippgoat (Post 12447589)
What's that blue thing going across in front of the front diff?

-Mike

Looks like a piece of blue tape LOL

CraigM 08-15-2013 03:34 AM

New sway bar mount

JoeyE 08-15-2013 07:03 AM

These sway bar mounts are cool too.

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps60b6fca5.jpg

Smartypants 08-15-2013 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by grippgoat (Post 12447589)
What's that blue thing going across in front of the front diff?

-Mike


That image is a Photoshop that's doing the rounds, see below Photoshop left / original image right ;)


http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/...psbd19274d.jpg

OnRDPassion 08-15-2013 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by JoeyE (Post 12449641)
These sway bar mounts are cool too.

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps60b6fca5.jpg

who makes that sway bar mount?

Smartypants 08-15-2013 07:44 AM

Roche - http://www.roche.hk/shopping/index.p...product_id=606

tiko 08-15-2013 08:28 AM

Tamiya has one for the TA05 #53916. I'm thinking that it should work because the 417 sway bars work on the TA05.

syndr0me 08-15-2013 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by Smartypants (Post 12449669)
That image is a Photoshop that's doing the rounds, see below Photoshop left / original image right ;)

Sneaky. That's almost as bad as the fake iPhone pictures that always show up.

It's a relief, though, because I see two old busted gear diffs in that car! :lol:


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