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Old 06-16-2014, 10:37 PM
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All sounds very promising really! I'm happy with mine, I'm nowhere near good enough to match the car

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That along with all the updated suspension parts is my guess. All that said, the new x will be a very promising car.
Updated suspension? You mean the new C hubs?
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Old 06-16-2014, 10:43 PM
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For those looking for a softer chassis. I went .3 quicker straight away with the Smokem chassis here in aus. This was on a medium outdoor asphalt track running blinky 13.5. (My home track)
Could not recommend it enough. Have not tested the Samix though...
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Old 06-16-2014, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cplus
All sounds very promising really! I'm happy with mine, I'm nowhere near good enough to match the car



Updated suspension? You mean the new C hubs?
yeah, that and the short shocks/towers found on the evo6.
Also expect the layshaft to be like the BD7 2014.
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Old 06-17-2014, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by inpuressa
yeah, that and the short shocks/towers found on the evo6.
Also expect the layshaft to be like the BD7 2014.
I was told that the cars at the last ETS had std shocks / towers and motor mount although the chassis could well have been softer. (The TRF guys did stay on and test other parts for 2 days after the race though, so it could have been more elaborate things like a mount etc that they tested).

I have heard that the team drivers dont really like low profile shocks / towers, although that may change if they can use std springs.

I would however expect the new car to have the lower profile towers / big bore shocks as it will be something tangible as an upgrade as just a softer chassis and the C-hubs will not be much of a jump.

Personally I race stock, I didn't like the new yok mount for stock, it felt unresponsive compared to the earlier version), I didnt have it for long though as my 418 has just hit the sweet spot for me, helping me have a healthy winning streak at my local club.

Regarding the actual chassis as it stands, I think its responsive to minor changes. The car is much more exact feeling than any of my 417's, and I find than 0.5 shims make a noticeable difference so sometimes I have used 3x0.1 shims to tweak settings. The new C-hubs allow more roll height adjustment as they have a shim on top as well.

The other thing is other than Ronald who is on a different planet at the moment the Tamiya guys are right behind and then it seems to be the rest. I think most of this is due to the large entourage that follow the Yokomo team to every event over the last 2 years helping them refine set-up etc. Its telling this year that Tamiya has started to bring more of their drivers together at larger meetings that they seem to have got quicker.
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Old 06-17-2014, 02:58 AM
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I have been using the 2.1mm soft chassis by Bezerk RC and car worked perfectly even when track was up to 118deg f.
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Old 06-17-2014, 07:24 AM
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The most striking things about Volkers yokomo at the Reedy was 1) how much testing they did (running two different cars every session), 2) how after all that they returned to the stock parts, and 3) how much more rip Ronald had in a straight line if he wanted it.
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Old 06-17-2014, 06:36 PM
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He definitely does have some serious top end with the X20/flow combo.

I wonder how much cross checking the other teams do - fro example, when the TRF boys stayed behind at Luxembourg, would they do something radical like run a yoko in full volker spec to see if they can match his times? Or possibly swap his electronics into their car and see what it can do?

You'd be pretty peeved to stick an off the shelf X20 and flow into the car and run faster.....!
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Old 06-17-2014, 11:05 PM
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His car wasn't that much faster than everyone else. I told my pit guy it looked like he hand a "push to pass" button in there, and used it like twice over the 13 rounds I watched. Mark Dawson later wrote the same thing, and he and I didnt talk about it beforehand, so I'm pretty sure I didn't imagine it.

Back in his heyday, Kinwald used to look like that - but he legitimately had more motor than everyone else.
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Old 06-18-2014, 01:26 AM
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Interesting. Would be cool to know how it's set up (if it is indeed)

Can't see any way other than a dial switch for, say, end point.

Would be odd though.
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Old 06-18-2014, 02:01 AM
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Hi Guy's

Looking back at the ETS in Luxemburg Ronald's car was not faster on the main straight that is an uphill one but had more corner speed and traction.
I don't think that the Yokomo is so much superior to the TRF or why are there not more Yokomo's in front off the Tamiya.
I personly think the major factor in this is Umino.
Ronald is the only non Japanes factory driver who get's shock's build by Umino till now.
And I'm certain that the TRF Boys did already build the same spec car as Ronald's one and made a back to back test.
They are closing the gap but will they be there till the world's ?
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It's possible (likely even) he just had more motor than everyone else, and never showed it till he needed it. Secret weapon hidden in plain sight.
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Old 06-18-2014, 07:41 AM
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Or maybe like the old days................overgeared and only using 1/2 to 3/4 throttle unless you really needed it.
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Old 06-18-2014, 02:30 PM
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Hi All, i think the Yok is complimenting Ronalds diving style a little more than others. My insight is that it's not one factor, it's the combination of everything they do which drives their success. There is no silver bullet.
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Originally Posted by Rodney Racer
Or maybe like the old days................overgeared and only using 1/2 to 3/4 throttle unless you really needed it.
They were the days!
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Originally Posted by Rodney Racer
Or maybe like the old days................overgeared and only using 1/2 to 3/4 throttle unless you really needed it.
I don't think that would help your acceleration much.
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