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Old 06-10-2005, 11:38 AM   #16
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We have been cutting our VHT with regular gas, and it has not degraded our asphalt ( yet ). We buy our VHT in gallon containers for $20 and cut it 50/50. Actaully we have started to cut it less, more like 60 gas.40 VHT, as the traction has been too high ( 12th scales litteraly stick ot the track, as do your tennis shoes) . The amount we spray depends on the weather between race/practice days. 2 night ago, we sprayed 50/50 mix, but only about 2 quarts of each, and lightly misted it, traction was phenominal. ( 135x70 )
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Old 06-10-2005, 11:43 AM   #17
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hey tim i know this is off topic but what gearing do you guys run on mod sedan witha 10x1 and a 14x2. fdr would be nice
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Old 06-10-2005, 06:51 PM   #18
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BTW-How do you know Craig Prahl? or is Craig Pfahl a different person?


I have run at that track a time or two; I lived and raced in Region 3 for many years.
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Old 06-10-2005, 08:14 PM   #19
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I have talked with numerous people about VHT and I have been doing as they say with good results.

At first spray the VHT 1:1, then as you get a good base down you can use less VHT; .5 VHT to 1.5.
Cool weather you can use gas to thin, as the weather or surface gets warm gas will not allow the VHT to set and will be slimmy, so hot weather you will want to thin with methenol/alcohol allowing the VHT to set. At this time I use 1 gallon of VHT and 3 gallons of gas or methenol to spray a 120 x 85 track. Also gas has not affected the asphalt at all.
We are in a dusty area and I had the same concerns, but if you lighty mist the track with water right before you spray, you actually rinse the dust down into the surface and as you spray more the track seems to smooth out, as it seals the dirt into the track instead blowing up to the top then spraying over it.

As for soda/sugar water, over time it tends to eat the asphalt ( if unsealed ) and make it porious allowing small pebbles to come to the surface and eat spur gears.

Cost wise; If you buy VHT in a 55 gallon drum it comes out to approx. 15.00 a gallon.

Just my 2 cent from the experiences at my track.

Hope it helps.
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Talking traction

We use WD-40 on our indoor asphalt track.
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Old 06-14-2005, 09:04 AM   #21
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with all that vht and gas i hope you dont end up having to repave the track in a year.
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Old 06-14-2005, 11:09 AM   #22
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I've been using VHT since the mid 80's on our club tracks surface RAMS club.. and have tried it all..its best use 1:1 if done right. If you try to stretch it out but cutting it with a thinnner gas, alcohol.. ruins the stuff don't use it.

If it breaks it down enough to thin it , its breaking down the same molecule that you want to create adhesion with.. DOH! (smack up side the head sound goes here!)

VHT does not affect asphalt it actually makes it better. seals it and smooths it out..tracks use it straight to coat newly paved surfaces.. its does not wash away with rain or water and stays sticky for weeks.


Its biodegradable and will not harm tires or asphalt..

Prep newly cleaned surface spray 1:1 vht straight from the bottle. or drum. only need to do this once. afterwards cleaned off track with blower and mist 1:1 with vht.. don't cut it with gas.. its makes it slippery when it gets hot .. methanol breaks the stuff down so don't cut it with that either. go cheap pay twice as much. better off using corn syrup

If you run on the same surface once in awhile (every other week) clean off track with water power washer.. let dry then hit with a fine mist 1:1.. it will get stickier as the heats builds during the day. If you cut it with gas or methanol it will get slipprier as the heat builds.come up on your tries and be a waste of money use the stuff straight for best results.

I even swab it on my sedan rubber tires when VHT is used on the track its like velcro and the tires don't over heat and last longer. (speed secret..shhh!)

Remember VHT is designed to bond with asphalt and make the rubber stick.. if you use traction compound like paragon, trinity grip, tq8/orange it makes the tires have a reactive coating to the vht surface.. taking away grip.

Sedan rubber on vht : clean your tires with methanol then let dry. apply with a rag a thin coating of vht 1:1.. let tack up (5-10 mins).. do a burn out on the track and watch the g-forces go up.

try it it works.
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I have run at that track a time or two; I lived and raced in Region 3 for many years.
hey j when ru coming bck to the carolinas hve u forgotten us lol come run with brandon and the gang or at fasttrack
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Old 06-14-2005, 07:33 PM   #24
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Reggie- Hahahha....no I haven't forgotten about all you guys- in fact I stay in touch with a few of those dudes- including Brandon.
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