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Old 08-14-2013, 11:11 PM   #436
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a few things I need to address

1. please don't get caught cheating at my event. If you feel like you need to, don't come...simple...It will not be discussed, you will be asked to leave.

2. class entries are still on going...you can add as many classes as you like anytime. Pit space is the issue....unless you have a trailer(as some are bringing) or would like to pit outside(EZ-up and table)...the building itself is at capacity, Ive even given up my both my pit spots to allow for a racer to use, as well as all the racers to use(restroom that is...lol). So if you want to come, come on...but just be aware the building is full...you can also ask to seat 3 to a side with your buddies.

3.USGT, all 21.5 must be ROAR approved...Im not sure why anybody would think otherwise...so Im clearing the air now...its a simple oversight, but it has been understood from day one....end

4.USGT bodies, Im sure the rules are pretty clear, but if you are NOT sure about a certain body for the class...please please pm or email me the info or pic before you show up wanting to run it...or post it here

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3.USGT, all 21.5 must be ROAR approved...Im not sure why anybody would think otherwise...so Im clearing the air now...its a simple oversight, but it has been understood from day one....end
Will you guys make/publish a complete list of ROAR approved motors? I know the ROAR list isnt up to date and most times you need to check their chat board for whats been approved recently this can cause some confusion as their list isnt 100% accurate.
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pics of my pit space last year...thank you Tommy and all that helped
I heard you stopped it up trying to flush your ride...
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Old 08-15-2013, 02:02 AM   #439
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Will you guys make/publish a complete list of ROAR approved motors? I know the ROAR list isnt up to date and most times you need to check their chat board for whats been approved recently this can cause some confusion as their list isnt 100% accurate.
that's a good idea...Justin had a link somewhere..maybe he can post it

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I heard you stopped it up trying to flush your ride...
not mine...Fernandos...lol
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Old 08-15-2013, 07:19 AM   #440
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Will you guys make/publish a complete list of ROAR approved motors? I know the ROAR list isnt up to date and most times you need to check their chat board for whats been approved recently this can cause some confusion as their list isnt 100% accurate.


Stock/21.5 Spec Associated LRP LRP X20 Stock Spec – 50864 Details May 22, 2013
Stock/21.5 Spec Associated Reedy 940 Sonic 51.0 June 28, 2011
Stock/21.5 Spec Associated Reedy Reedy Sonic 540 Mach 2 # 231 Details February 8, 2013
Stock/21.5 Spec Hobbico TrakPower TrakPower MS Series TKPC5050 Details April 13, 2013
Stock/21.5 Spec Hobbywing Hobbywing Blue=90040150 XeRUN 52.4 May 1, 2011
Stock/21.5 Spec Hobbywing Hobbywing Grey=90040151 XeRUN 52.4 May 1, 2011
Stock/21.5 Spec Horizon Hobby Dynamite DYNP1021 Quantex 21.T 50.0 February 10, 2012
Stock/21.5 Spec Horizon Hobby Dynamite Dynamite Platinum Sensored (DPS) Motor DYNP 1031 Details February 27, 2013
Stock/21.5 Spec Horizon Hobby Team Orion ORI28237 Vortex VST Pro Stock 21.5 52.2 October 21, 2011
Stock/21.5 Spec HRP Savox Savox SX-1 Stock Spec BLH3650-0032 Details April 19, 2013
Stock/21.5 Spec Novak Novak 3421SS Pro 21.5T 52.7 February 19, 2009
Stock/21.5 Spec Novak Novak Ballistic 3621 54.0 July 16, 2009
Stock/21.5 Spec RC Industries Int’l Pro Amps Pro Amps Brushless Series p/n 8709-240 Details August 1, 2013
Stock/21.5 Spec Rocket RC Speed Shop Team Powers TP-BLM-215100PL Plutonium 13.5T 52.5 March 2, 2012
Stock/21.5 Spec Schumacher USA Speed Passion Speed Passion Competition V3 SP 138215V3 21.5T 51.0 August 2, 2015
Stock/21.5 Spec Schuur Speed Schuur Speed 540215 21.5T 51.2 February 28, 2012
Stock/21.5 Spec Speed Passion USA Speed Passion SP000040 Competition V3.0 MMM 48.5 June 27, 2011
Stock/21.5 Spec Speed Passion USA Speed Passion SP Competition V3.0 1 cell p/n 1C215V3 50.5 November 27, 2010
Stock/21.5 Spec Team Epic Team Epic Trinity D3 21.5 TEP 1057 Purple Capped Rotor 53 October 5, 2010
Stock/21.5 Spec Team Epic Trinity TRI 10415 Pulse 21.5T 55 November 14, 2008
Stock/21.5 Spec Tekin Tekin TT2402 Gen2 21.5 T RPM n/a October 1, 2012
Stock/21.5 Spec Tekin Tekin Tekin Redline Gen 2 – TT2403 Details July 27, 2012
Stock/21.5 Spec Tekin Tekin TT24093 Gen2 21.5T n/a October 1, 2012
Stock/21.5 Spec Tekin Tekin Redline 21.5 P/N TT2250 49.5 February 21, 2009
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here is some good information as well



http://roarracing.org/4rmb/forumdisp...ec-21-5-Motors
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Stock/21.5 Spec Associated LRP LRP X20 Stock Spec – 50864 Details May 22, 2013
Stock/21.5 Spec Associated Reedy 940 Sonic 51.0 June 28, 2011
Stock/21.5 Spec Associated Reedy Reedy Sonic 540 Mach 2 # 231 Details February 8, 2013
Stock/21.5 Spec Hobbico TrakPower TrakPower MS Series TKPC5050 Details April 13, 2013
Stock/21.5 Spec Hobbywing Hobbywing Blue=90040150 XeRUN 52.4 May 1, 2011
Stock/21.5 Spec Hobbywing Hobbywing Grey=90040151 XeRUN 52.4 May 1, 2011
Stock/21.5 Spec Horizon Hobby Dynamite DYNP1021 Quantex 21.T 50.0 February 10, 2012
Stock/21.5 Spec Horizon Hobby Dynamite Dynamite Platinum Sensored (DPS) Motor DYNP 1031 Details February 27, 2013
Stock/21.5 Spec Horizon Hobby Team Orion ORI28237 Vortex VST Pro Stock 21.5 52.2 October 21, 2011
Stock/21.5 Spec HRP Savox Savox SX-1 Stock Spec BLH3650-0032 Details April 19, 2013
Stock/21.5 Spec Novak Novak 3421SS Pro 21.5T 52.7 February 19, 2009
Stock/21.5 Spec Novak Novak Ballistic 3621 54.0 July 16, 2009
Stock/21.5 Spec RC Industries Int’l Pro Amps Pro Amps Brushless Series p/n 8709-240 Details August 1, 2013
Stock/21.5 Spec Rocket RC Speed Shop Team Powers TP-BLM-215100PL Plutonium 13.5T 52.5 March 2, 2012
Stock/21.5 Spec Schumacher USA Speed Passion Speed Passion Competition V3 SP 138215V3 21.5T 51.0 August 2, 2015
Stock/21.5 Spec Schuur Speed Schuur Speed 540215 21.5T 51.2 February 28, 2012
Stock/21.5 Spec Speed Passion USA Speed Passion SP000040 Competition V3.0 MMM 48.5 June 27, 2011
Stock/21.5 Spec Speed Passion USA Speed Passion SP Competition V3.0 1 cell p/n 1C215V3 50.5 November 27, 2010
Stock/21.5 Spec Team Epic Team Epic Trinity D3 21.5 TEP 1057 Purple Capped Rotor 53 October 5, 2010
Stock/21.5 Spec Team Epic Trinity TRI 10415 Pulse 21.5T 55 November 14, 2008
Stock/21.5 Spec Tekin Tekin TT2402 Gen2 21.5 T RPM n/a October 1, 2012
Stock/21.5 Spec Tekin Tekin Tekin Redline Gen 2 – TT2403 Details July 27, 2012
Stock/21.5 Spec Tekin Tekin TT24093 Gen2 21.5T n/a October 1, 2012
Stock/21.5 Spec Tekin Tekin Redline 21.5 P/N TT2250 49.5 February 21, 2009
Stock/21.5 Spec Tekin Tekin Tekin Redline Gen 2 RPM – TT2402 Details July 27, 2012
Stock/21.5 Spec Thunder Power RC Thunder Power Z3R-S21.5 p/n TPM-540A215 52.0 November 27, 2010
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here is some good information as well



http://roarracing.org/4rmb/forumdisp...ec-21-5-Motors
So does that mean i can't run my Vulcan since it isn't on the 2 lists you have posted? Just though I would ask before some people get crazy.
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Yea exactly . as I was told by someone to get .
U know theirs 1 motor missing that's on the list . Lol
Someone was talking in another thread about how the 21.5 has never had a "wire rule" issue .
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If you go to the approvals section of ROAR's page and click BL motors. At the top you can click Type/manufacture/date approved and it will put the list together by what ever you click. Click on Type and it will put all the 21.5's in order and its makes it easier to navigate and find all the motors together (except the ones that are tested under the new method and those are on the ROAR forum section that Myron posted a link to).

The D3.5 21.5 is there Justin. It's not in myrons list but is on the ROAR website and that motor was the only D3.5 that was never in question as it was ONLY tested on the new machine and approval process back in Feb after the 17.5 was kicked.

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So does that mean i can't run my Vulcan since it isn't on the 2 lists you have posted? Just though I would ask before some people get crazy.
RJ,

Looking at both list the Vulcan has either not been submitted or has not been tested yet by ROAR. Someone may want to follow up with Novak on that just to be sure. The Vulcan does appear on the 17.5 list but not 21.5.

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Yea I already knew that EA I just didn't want to actually say it . Lol I know if my Vulcan isn't legal the D3.5 will be in my car unless Myron has a good motor to loan me ;-p
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Stock/21.5 Spec Associated LRP LRP X20 Stock Spec – 50864 Details May 22, 2013
Stock/21.5 Spec Associated Reedy 940 Sonic 51.0 June 28, 2011
Stock/21.5 Spec Associated Reedy Reedy Sonic 540 Mach 2 # 231 Details February 8, 2013
Stock/21.5 Spec Hobbico TrakPower TrakPower MS Series TKPC5050 Details April 13, 2013
Stock/21.5 Spec Hobbywing Hobbywing Blue=90040150 XeRUN 52.4 May 1, 2011
Stock/21.5 Spec Hobbywing Hobbywing Grey=90040151 XeRUN 52.4 May 1, 2011
Stock/21.5 Spec Horizon Hobby Dynamite DYNP1021 Quantex 21.T 50.0 February 10, 2012
Stock/21.5 Spec Horizon Hobby Dynamite Dynamite Platinum Sensored (DPS) Motor DYNP 1031 Details February 27, 2013
Stock/21.5 Spec Horizon Hobby Team Orion ORI28237 Vortex VST Pro Stock 21.5 52.2 October 21, 2011
Stock/21.5 Spec HRP Savox Savox SX-1 Stock Spec BLH3650-0032 Details April 19, 2013
Stock/21.5 Spec Novak Novak 3421SS Pro 21.5T 52.7 February 19, 2009
Stock/21.5 Spec Novak Novak Ballistic 3621 54.0 July 16, 2009
Stock/21.5 Spec RC Industries Int’l Pro Amps Pro Amps Brushless Series p/n 8709-240 Details August 1, 2013
Stock/21.5 Spec Rocket RC Speed Shop Team Powers TP-BLM-215100PL Plutonium 13.5T 52.5 March 2, 2012
Stock/21.5 Spec Schumacher USA Speed Passion Speed Passion Competition V3 SP 138215V3 21.5T 51.0 August 2, 2015
Stock/21.5 Spec Schuur Speed Schuur Speed 540215 21.5T 51.2 February 28, 2012
Stock/21.5 Spec Speed Passion USA Speed Passion SP000040 Competition V3.0 MMM 48.5 June 27, 2011
Stock/21.5 Spec Speed Passion USA Speed Passion SP Competition V3.0 1 cell p/n 1C215V3 50.5 November 27, 2010
Stock/21.5 Spec Team Epic Team Epic Trinity D3 21.5 TEP 1057 Purple Capped Rotor 53 October 5, 2010
Stock/21.5 Spec Team Epic Trinity TRI 10415 Pulse 21.5T 55 November 14, 2008
Stock/21.5 Spec Tekin Tekin TT2402 Gen2 21.5 T RPM n/a October 1, 2012
Stock/21.5 Spec Tekin Tekin Tekin Redline Gen 2 – TT2403 Details July 27, 2012
Stock/21.5 Spec Tekin Tekin TT24093 Gen2 21.5T n/a October 1, 2012
Stock/21.5 Spec Tekin Tekin Redline 21.5 P/N TT2250 49.5 February 21, 2009
Stock/21.5 Spec Tekin Tekin Tekin Redline Gen 2 RPM – TT2402 Details July 27, 2012
Stock/21.5 Spec Thunder Power RC Thunder Power Z3R-S21.5 p/n TPM-540A215 52.0 November 27, 2010
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Looking at both list the Vulcan has either not been submitted or has not been tested yet by ROAR. Someone may want to follow up with Novak on that just to be sure. The Vulcan does appear on the 17.5 list but not 21.5.

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Charlie said it was submitted just waiting on ROAR for approval at this point with alot of other motors.
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Charlie said it was submitted just waiting on ROAR for approval at this point with alot of other motors.
That is what I figured Kevin. I know trinity has some stuff there along with ORCA and several other companies.

Also that list is not complete either for the ROAR legal 21.5's. Myron did a good job but missed a few from the list.

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I have to ask . what if they r not approved by the race (the Vulcan) ?
Being its the exact same stator /rotor/sensor as in a ballistic 21.5?
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