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Old 05-28-2005, 09:17 PM   #31
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It also looks like that car has a front diff. It has delrin outdrives with the rings like most diffs have. TiR tried a delrin spool, and the cups broke every run when using modified motors.
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Old 05-28-2005, 09:22 PM   #32
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Thats the new Tamiya Spool.
It has Delrin outdrives too..

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Old 05-29-2005, 02:45 AM   #33
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Anyone else notice that it doesn't have the new rear suspension?
if your referring to the Pro Module set up from Tamiya America, I'd say thats because this car comes from the Japan factory which i assume isn't using the American set up, who knows whether they will adopt it in the future? I'm looking forward to seeing their design for the front suspension muahahah
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Old 05-29-2005, 09:06 AM   #34
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comparing those pics with my 415ms, i reckon that an upgrade is possible. only things to change would be the top deck and bulkheads. anyone else spot any other changes. i don't think there would be a chassis change.
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Old 05-29-2005, 09:11 AM   #35
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The Chassis likely changed slightly in configuration..if not for anything else, then to have the mounting holesinthe proper positions for the bulkheads....

changing the CNC program for thechassis machining is such a low cost change that it wouldn't make sense to NOT try and optimize it..
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Man, that top deck is really really narrow...and no standoffs to the front and back to bridge them together. I'd say this is definately an asphalt orientated car with more chassis flex than the 415 or 415MS
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Old 05-29-2005, 08:24 PM   #37
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accually i think this car is being called the 415 MSX the X is for experimental so its probably just a prototype so something new they are working on or a new verison. my 2 cents. ill ask andrew cartwright, a tamiya USA driver. he is running the invite class at RROC so ill ask him about it when he gets back
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on the same point, they could be just testing a load of things towards a new car
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Gary it was suprisingly stiff. The chassis did not use stand-offs but was as stiff as an MS or an original 415-3mm. There is no release date yet as I heard both versions of a late summer release along with no production planned. All in all the car was very fast Marc had some bad luck in his final round or it would have been different for results. As for the rest of the parts they were all LW suspension with various tuning bits employed. Set-up was very similar to an MS
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415 MSP2
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John thanks for dinner and the "beverages" last night it was way a too early morning to catch the flight today.
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I've heard the new prototype car being called the 415MSX, 415.5, and DJ called it the 415KS. I got some good pics of the car. But I'll ask through proper channels if I can post the pics.
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as i said, its the 415 MSX
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yup Satoshi listed that as his chassis, but most people joke around when they fill out those sponsor sheets. I asked David Jun on the way to the first day of practice of the Reedy Race, what the new car was being called and he didn't have a definitive answer but he called it the 415KS, But whatever they call it, the new car was a very competitive this past weekend with both the LW and DJ suspension. Too bad the breaks didn't fall in favor to the TRF team. But the results are promising
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The 415X, 415MSX, or 415KS (Kiyo-Style) does show a lot of promise. The chassis is not a standard 2.5mm chassis. It is slightly different and is made up of a different CF.

On another note, those delrin outdrive spools are dialed (thanks guys ) and have absolutely NO chatter, added steering response when cornering, and provides a more direct feel of power transfer when coming out of corners. I had many mod runs with mine along with some tremendous on power impacts (aluminum bone benders), and they show minimal wear.
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