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Old 06-02-2005, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Juan Valdez
For the same reason someone buys a 12turn instead of a 8turn for the same price. It just suits there needs better. Maybe the 6.5 is better suited for off-road because the 5.5 has too much rip for low traction situations. Or someone is running on a small track where a faster motor would be overkill. That's my guess at least. Hope my explaination makes sense!

I think you're probably right, Juan... perhaps it's my inexperience with brushless... is a 5.5 really that much more powerful than a 6.5 that you'd want to sell both? Huh...
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Originally Posted by lonepalm4
An 8 turn with no maintainence!! It's a great time to be in this hobby!!!!!!!!

wow... im impressed, i think if its really equivalent to an 8turn, i might think of getting 1 already...
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Originally Posted by Bob Nilsen
I think you're probably right, Juan... perhaps it's my inexperience with brushless... is a 5.5 really that much more powerful than a 6.5 that you'd want to sell both? Huh...

I honestly don't think the speed will be alot of difference. Velocity 5.5 will be my pick.
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The Velocity 5.5 is equal to a 7t motor and the 6.5 is equal to a 9t motor.

I know Novak says 5.5 and 6.5 but thats not equivalent to brushed motors..they go by their own measuring system.

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Originally Posted by Team Duratrax
The Velocity 5.5 is equal to a 7t motor and the 6.5 is equal to a 9t motor.

I know Novak says 5.5 and 6.5 but thats not equivalent to brushed motors..they go by their own measuring system.

Sean

can i just quantify... 7turn x 1 Revolution motor? or 7turn 7x1 Kr motor or 7single cobalt motor?

thanks - jason
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Old 06-02-2005, 08:50 AM
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"I hope they make different lengths of wire harnesses so 1/12 scale weight can be kept to as low as possible." I agree. I don't remember seeing that the harness will be replaceable (if it's like the 5800, then it's not) It would be nice for the next generation to have replaceable, and different length harnesses. yeah, you could just shorten the wires and solder them back together, but that's pretty hack with 6 tiny wires... Man, this thing is going to be sweeeeet...
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Old 06-02-2005, 09:02 AM
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It would seem to be a fairly trivial thing to have a sensor harnes that had a connector on both ends and that allowed the user to choose what ever length suited their needs... I don't think there are any issues where changing the length would hurt anything, etc...
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Old 06-02-2005, 05:24 PM
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Hey Guys, One thing that is very important to clarify.

The Velociti 5.5 and 6.5 ARE NOT EQUIVELANT TO THOSE TURNS. THAT IS WHAT THEY ACTUALLY ARE. I'm sure this will constantly be confused.

The SS5800 motor that has been out for a while is told by most customers to be about like a 12-15 turn motor. It IS an 8.5 turn. So we excpet the 5.5 and the 6.5 to be about like a 9 and 10 turn.

The GTB in Brushed Mode will be the most powerful Brushed ESC ever. EVER!

We don't have details about the ESC adjustments just yet, but will as soon as we can. It is not likely there will be Limiting in the ESC, just different Motors. The limiting stuff has it's problems.

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Old 06-03-2005, 06:16 AM
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nice to see a novak rep over here, always appreciate your great customer service!

if you cant limit those motor through esc programs,so is it possible to limit them on the transmitter?

in the description you wrote that the esc has a factory installed heatsink and fan, since Ill probably never run the gtb on its limit, I surely need no fan, is it removable?

hope to see some better pics soon- keep up the good work.
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any pics of the GTB installed in a tourer?
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Hmm.. I still can't finger out why mine any my friend's SS5800 can't outrun VFS1 + 23T V2 stock, if it really act as 12~15T motor. Tried many different gear ratio/setting, still, out run by VFS1 + 23T V2 stock in straight line. If it's a ESC limitation, than maybe install GTB with SS5800 motor will truly give 12~15T speed?
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Which ESC program are you using?
How is it geared?
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"I still can't finger out why mine any my friend's SS5800 can't outrun VFS1 + 23T V2 stock" Sounds like your friends got issues. either he has the sc set up wrong, or possibly a bad motor/sc. the 5800 IS equivilent to a 12 single.
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Originally Posted by lonepalm4
"I still can't finger out why mine any my friend's SS5800 can't outrun VFS1 + 23T V2 stock" Sounds like your friends got issues. either he has the sc set up wrong, or possibly a bad motor/sc. the 5800 IS equivilent to a 12 single.
Mine is running at mode4 (unlim RPM, unlim acc, high brake, no rev) with gear ratio 6.89 (TRF415). I tried different ratio from 7.4 all the way down 6.6 and I found with 6.89 it gives best laptime, but still, slightly outrun by VFS1 + 23T V2 stock in straight. End speed about the same, but VFS1 + 23T V2 stock accelerate much faster than my 5800, so basically I gain some in enter/mid corner (well, 415 is better turner than SD I guess, or enemy car's setting is bad..), and lost some in exit corner and straight (pure power performance).

Still can't get it right...
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Originally Posted by Bob Nilsen
I think you're probably right, Juan... perhaps it's my inexperience with brushless... is a 5.5 really that much more powerful than a 6.5 that you'd want to sell both? Huh...
I think this new Novak Brushless system is what everyone waiting for is because it is a much faster system then their previous well known SS5800, which is considered "slow" (kinda like 12-14T) for some racer that used it to race against 7T or 8T motor on the outdoor track.....thats why NOVAK is developed this one, which claimed (still need to find out ourself) to be close to 8T motor...

If someone said they saw the new novak in action in Reedy race and they are up to par with those 8T brush motor.........NOVAK will get my $250 as long as they are at the LHS...

Between 5.5 and 6.5....yeah, I think that might be some different, like on-road and off-road use....we should let NOVAK ppl (calling Charlie, are you there?) to let us know why use 6.5 if we can get 5.5 for the same price...

Personally, I buy Novak because it is a LOCAL USA service, if something wrong, at least I can talk to someone and the turn around is within weeks...I am not sure LRP will be the same, I heard those who has QC2 has to send those thing to EUROPE LRP (AE does not do service for LRP, just sales) and turnaround was 4-6 months.
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