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Old 05-27-2005, 04:18 AM   #16
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Not exactly... SS5800 IS 8,5 turn itself.
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Old 05-27-2005, 05:59 AM   #17
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i thought brushless motors had a kv rating, is novak giving one for these new motors.
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Old 05-27-2005, 07:02 AM   #18
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every motor has this rating. It's just that brushless motors just as brushed ones have wire wound in coils, so they also have "turn index". In simple words brushless is just the same thing as brushed, just inside out. This eliminates comm/brush related headaches but makes ESC more complicated
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Old 05-27-2005, 08:50 AM   #19
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This new system looks great but i don't think the turns on these new motors are what they say.

They say that the SS4300 is equivalent to a 10 1/2t motor?
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Old 05-27-2005, 08:53 AM   #20
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GTX Dimensions (from Novak's site) Case Size: 1.11 x 0.86 x 0.60 (28.2 x 21.8 x 15.2 mm)

GTB Dimensions (from Novak's site) Footprint: 1.16 x 1.49 (29.5 x 37.8 mm)

Not as small as the GTX... but smaller than the SS+ Footprint: 1.32 x 1.75 (33.5 x 44.5 mm)


Oh and lets compare to the Sphere... (taken from teamassociated.com) 33.3 by 37.7mm (roughly between the sizes of a Quantum Competition and an IPC V7.1)

Damn these are nice toys... hope the prices come down after the initial shock!! and that all the "must have 1st" people get the bugs sorted out quick +)
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Any word on pricing yet?
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This new system looks great but i don't think the turns on these new motors are what they say.

They say that the SS4300 is equivalent to a 10 1/2t motor?
No they say the SS4300 IS a 10.5 turn brushless motor. That does not mean it is equivalent to a 10.5 turn brushed motor. Same for all of the new Novak motors. Number of turns between brushed and brushless motors are not necessarily equal.
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Old 05-27-2005, 09:28 AM   #23
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Any word on pricing yet?
Prices are listed at www.towerhobbies.com

Think $350 USD for the novak system (5.5 or 6.5 motor) with esc
$250 USD for GTB alone

Sphere $175 USD, NEO $80 USD
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Wow... they must be very proud of it, $100 more than the LRP system? That's not close enough to get me to cancel my Sphere order...

I'd really like to see the user manual for this thing!
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That one looks fantastic! I really hope the thing is just a little lower than the Super Sport ESC's to fit my B4 slightly better. Looking forward to their first appearances on the track!

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Wow... they must be very proud of it, $100 more than the LRP system? That's not close enough to get me to cancel my Sphere order...

I'd really like to see the user manual for this thing!
That price will come down, Tower is always very high when items are forst anounced.
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Old 05-27-2005, 01:28 PM   #27
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Street prices:

GTB Controller @185
Velociti Motors @ 83
GTB / Velociti Systems @255


http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/s...d.php?t=197295

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Old 05-27-2005, 02:32 PM   #28
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Big question, will the new motors run ok with a U-Force 75 as a 5800 has way too much cogging.
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Old 05-27-2005, 04:09 PM   #29
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More size comparison:

NOVAK GTB: 29.5 x 37.8 mm
NOVAK GTX: 28.2 x 21.8 mm
NOVAK SS/SS+: 33.5 x 44.5 mm
KO VFS1: 28 x 25 mm
LRP Sphere: 33.3 x 37.7 mm
LRP QC2: 28.7 x 25.7 mm
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Default Novak 5800 cogging???

Mine 5800 has never cogged once. It's super smooth in every mode. That's why I like it so much.
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