New Novak Brusless System
#1966

Originally Posted by HVFracingwilly
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#1967

Originally Posted by DrKucho
this was for you steve :-)
Your right the only difference between profile 1 and profile 3 is that the minimum drive in profile 3 is lower than that in profile 1.
This generally gives you less "punch" or bottom end response... it results in a smoother start up than normal as well.
You are also correct in that you can change the minimum drive in profile 1 to make it just the same as profile 3... the reason we made profile 3 was because people seem to be less afraid of changing profiles than of changing values in their profile... it is easier to just "hold the button until all four lights are on" than to "hold the button until just the amber light is on"...
#1968
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Originally Posted by Steve Weiss
Oh did I not get what you were asking for DrKucho?
Your right the only difference between profile 1 and profile 3 is that the minimum drive in profile 3 is lower than that in profile 1.
This generally gives you less "punch" or bottom end response... it results in a smoother start up than normal as well.
You are also correct in that you can change the minimum drive in profile 1 to make it just the same as profile 3... the reason we made profile 3 was because people seem to be less afraid of changing profiles than of changing values in their profile... it is easier to just "hold the button until all four lights are on" than to "hold the button until just the amber light is on"...
Your right the only difference between profile 1 and profile 3 is that the minimum drive in profile 3 is lower than that in profile 1.
This generally gives you less "punch" or bottom end response... it results in a smoother start up than normal as well.
You are also correct in that you can change the minimum drive in profile 1 to make it just the same as profile 3... the reason we made profile 3 was because people seem to be less afraid of changing profiles than of changing values in their profile... it is easier to just "hold the button until all four lights are on" than to "hold the button until just the amber light is on"...
#1969
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Originally Posted by Steve Weiss
Hey Rampal,
I haven't really gotten any good information back from my european driver's on 5 cell gear ratios yet... but 8.5 sounds like it might be an ok starting point for you on larger european flowing tracks... I don't think we could get away with that on our small tracks here in the US though!
I'll try to dig up any test data and give you better info as soon as I get some more time to do so!
I haven't really gotten any good information back from my european driver's on 5 cell gear ratios yet... but 8.5 sounds like it might be an ok starting point for you on larger european flowing tracks... I don't think we could get away with that on our small tracks here in the US though!
I'll try to dig up any test data and give you better info as soon as I get some more time to do so!
anyway, this is only a suggestion, but it would be really nice to have on the novak website the suggested ratio ranges to all novak motors, for 4, 5 and 6 cell, for standard and sintered rotors... You had that up to 5.5R I think on the manual, but since then, for the 4.5 or 3.5 or for the "correction" with the sintered, there is no reference....
thanks again,
cheers,
al
#1970
Tech Regular

It's hard to make good recommendations for gearing for some of the motors (especially the 4.5 & 3.5).
I've shut down in 12th running the recommended 4 cell gearing. You have to try a few different gears to see what works for the track and layout that you're running on. Motor timing also has a huge effect on gearing because it moves the powerband around.
I've shut down in 12th running the recommended 4 cell gearing. You have to try a few different gears to see what works for the track and layout that you're running on. Motor timing also has a huge effect on gearing because it moves the powerband around.
#1971
Tech Apprentice

Following on from an earlier post about running at 1/4 - 1/2 throttle for extended periods. Is there any reason not to buy the 3.5r, then adjust the throttle high point to suit how much power you need, rather than buying different wind rotors?
Ian
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#1972
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
It's hard to make good recommendations for gearing for some of the motors (especially the 4.5 & 3.5).
I've shut down in 12th running the recommended 4 cell gearing. You have to try a few different gears to see what works for the track and layout that you're running on. Motor timing also has a huge effect on gearing because it moves the powerband around.
I've shut down in 12th running the recommended 4 cell gearing. You have to try a few different gears to see what works for the track and layout that you're running on. Motor timing also has a huge effect on gearing because it moves the powerband around.

cheers,
al
#1973

Rampal-- we are currently working "behind the scenes" to try to add more in depth information to the website all the time... I've thought about having that sort of reference chart up there myself but honestly just haven't had the time to get it implimented yet... but we are always thinking about stuff like that! 
ianjoyner-- I've gotten this question a few times and I just think that alot of the time when you go with a slower motor you're looking for a different power band as well as less top speed....by using a 3.5R and turning the endpoint down you're still going to have a very powerful motor off the bottom end... and I'm not exactly sure this is what you're looking for.
Unregistered is right to about gearing... you really have to sometimes play with the gearing for your exact situation to find what works for you. That is why we always recommend to keep tabs on your motor and ESC temps and use that as a final determining factor for your gearing choices.

ianjoyner-- I've gotten this question a few times and I just think that alot of the time when you go with a slower motor you're looking for a different power band as well as less top speed....by using a 3.5R and turning the endpoint down you're still going to have a very powerful motor off the bottom end... and I'm not exactly sure this is what you're looking for.
Unregistered is right to about gearing... you really have to sometimes play with the gearing for your exact situation to find what works for you. That is why we always recommend to keep tabs on your motor and ESC temps and use that as a final determining factor for your gearing choices.
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Steve.....Not sure if this was asked before.....but How do the new 2.4 Spectrum GTB's differ from the standard GTB’s? What problems will you run into when using the standard GTB with a 2.4 GHz system? thanks
#1976

Kevin-- There actually are no major problems using the existing GTB with any sort of 2.4 GHz system.
We just decided to take advantage of the 2.4 GHz so that we could push the GTB to it's potential without having to worry about possible radio interference from those changes.
Kings Kid-- Unfortunately I haven't heard of any plans to do upgrades for people with the older GTBs to the Spread Spectrum specifications... it requires some hardware changes on the boards and to be honest they are not easy changes to make by hand.
We just decided to take advantage of the 2.4 GHz so that we could push the GTB to it's potential without having to worry about possible radio interference from those changes.
Kings Kid-- Unfortunately I haven't heard of any plans to do upgrades for people with the older GTBs to the Spread Spectrum specifications... it requires some hardware changes on the boards and to be honest they are not easy changes to make by hand.
Last edited by Steve Weiss; 03-02-2007 at 10:35 AM.
#1977

It's quiet in here today!
#1978
Tech Adept

Originally Posted by Steve Weiss
It's quiet in here today!
could be i got a unbalanced rotor ?
#1979

It could be the rotor is out of balance...but they are generally well balanced.
How is the endplay in the motor? Is it excessively tight? If so that might be the culprit because most bearings do not take side loads very well and can lead to premature failure like what you have experienced.
Also your gear mesh can make a difference as well... if there are tight spots in your gear mesh it can cause harmonics that can eventually damage the bearing as well.
I would check out both of these.
How is the endplay in the motor? Is it excessively tight? If so that might be the culprit because most bearings do not take side loads very well and can lead to premature failure like what you have experienced.
Also your gear mesh can make a difference as well... if there are tight spots in your gear mesh it can cause harmonics that can eventually damage the bearing as well.
I would check out both of these.
#1980
Tech Adept

im sorry my english is not that good to understand what you mean with "endplay" and "culprit"