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Old 11-27-2005, 11:08 AM   #826
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It's www.smc-racing.com but some reason I can;t access it

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Old 11-27-2005, 11:15 AM   #827
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I haven't been able to get emails since yesterday and our site is down. Hopefully we can figure out what is going on.
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Old 11-27-2005, 01:05 PM   #828
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hell no! you need to be clear, stock or modified? tc, off road, 12? are all three runs done at same day? how far apart? and soooooo on.....
Hell yes, i am running stock, and this is the fourth week once a week, and run each pack once, the first two times was very fast and the third time i notice the packs was going soft, this is what i did after race i would bring the packs to 5.40 v 6pack touring and leave it for the next race, then on race day i would eq then charge at 6amp .3 peak and race.
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Old 11-27-2005, 01:07 PM   #829
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I have a few packs of the ib3800 the first three runs was great but after that the packs got soft, did any body notice that with the ib?
Im not sure what your doing to your packs but I have been running mine for 2-3 months now with nothing but GREAT performance.

I charge at 6.0amps with a .02,.03 cutoff.I run the pack and then discharge at 30 amps down to 5.4 or .9 per cell and store it this way till the next weekend I race.
When i get to the track I then place the pack on a Integy zero thirty tray till the lights go out.You can leave the pack on for another minute or two after the lights go out.Let it cool and then place it on your charger.
Packs have been insane fast ever since.
The 1st couple 2-3 charges were actually the weakest.Seems they have a break in period to them.
Important Note: No matter WHO you buy IB's from.When you build them up ALWAYS put them on a tray and drain them before charging them.
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Are your packs brand new?
Are they matched?
If they are matched WHO are they matched by?

What charger are you using?
What discharger are you using?
Do you have a tray?If so what kind?
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Old 11-27-2005, 01:17 PM   #831
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Hell yes, i am running stock, and this is the fourth week once a week, and run each pack once, the first two times was very fast and the third time i notice the packs was going soft, this is what i did after race i would bring the packs to 5.40 v 6pack touring and leave it for the next race, then on race day i would eq then charge at 6amp .3 peak and race.
Your method is solid,nothing wrong there,keep an eye on the packs temp when it peaks it should be between 125 and 135 degrees,I've noticed that when they are not up to temp at peak they will run a "little" softer,if you need to, get a heating pad and get them up to 70-80 degrees before you throw them on the EQ.
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Are your packs brand new?
Are they matched?
If they are matched WHO are they matched by?

What charger are you using?
What discharger are you using?
Do you have a tray?If so what kind?
TexRacer, i did all that you did to your packs, my charger is CE turbo35, LRP and discharger Novak, Rayspeed, the packks matched by SMC/Promatch.
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[QUOTE=Hyper1]Your method is solid,nothing wrong there,keep an eye on the packs temp when it peaks it should be between 125 and 135 degrees,I've noticed that when they are not up to temp at peak they will run a "little" softer,if you need to, get a heating pad and get them up to 70-80 degrees before you throw them on the EQ.[/QUOTE

Hyper1, i notice my packs when they're finish charging the temp is about 110 deg, i was thinking the packs was a little cool, do you think that is the problem?
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If you own a temp gun adjust your peak detect until the pack is in the 130-140 range when it peaks. Check your motor setup and make sure your motor isn't getting to hot.
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If you own a temp gun adjust your peak detect until the pack is in the 130-140 range when it peaks. Check your motor setup and make sure your motor isn't getting to hot.
Yes i have a temp gun, and i will adjust my peak detect, and my motor is so hot when i finish racing i can not touch it, it comes off at around 230 deg, so what should i do to get it running cooler, if i gear down i loose speed, what should i do next, thank you guys.
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Yes i have a temp gun, and i will adjust my peak detect, and my motor is so hot when i finish racing i can not touch it, it comes off at around 230 deg, so what should i do to get it running cooler, if i gear down i loose speed, what should i do next, thank you guys.
If you really don't think being overgeared is the problem, try a higher drive freq. on your ESC maybe.
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I would adjust your peak detect but it seems like your problem is motor related. You should ask some of the motor tuners on this site i'm sure they can point you in the right direction.

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A stock motor shouldnt come off the track hotter then 175...i would say drop gearing...A BUNCH. the reason you think that you batteries are goin soft, is because the motor of fading. you have more speed with your stock motor is that you geared it to the moon. any motor geared to moon will be faster
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Yep stock motors can't be overgeared or they will fade pretty fast,sounds like that's PART of the problem,get your batteries in the right temp range like Danny said and work on get the gearing right for the motors and you should be set, then it's just a matter of working on that magical set up and driving a good clean consistant line.Keep track of what your doing with a notebook everytime you run also it helps a ton.I'm constantly writing down changes I make on race day,like a buddy told me recently,they make .010 shims for a reason.
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What a great weekend for IB cells. IB3800s were used to win every class in Cleveland and IB3600s were used to secure 2 of the 10 spots in the A main at the Orion Speed weeks.

IB has established itself as great cell manufacturer in a very short period of time.
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