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Old 11-10-2005, 11:14 AM   #721
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Congratulation on your win Oscar but it was fun to see an IB pack and Yokomo motor be able to keep up then pass and check out. Since we know that IB cells are better than GP cells it was great to see it on video. From what I heard Masami was taken out in the other 2 finals.

We also got info from a real reliable source who tested the special GP cells you guys are running and he told us that the IB3800 is still better. Maybe you need to talk with IB and get some for the Snowbirds.



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Old 11-10-2005, 11:52 AM   #722
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IB3800 are the best cells in the market right now!...........Period!
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Old 11-10-2005, 02:07 PM   #723
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One day in the near future Oscar will hafto eat his own words but will he be man enough to come on here and do it??????

Maybe its the fact that Orion have so many of the best drivers in the world that the GPs look so good!!!!! But you cant get away from that video IB hunted GP down then stalked it then it Killed it

IBs all day for me With them you get what it says on the label

Keep up the good work Danny and everyone else that matches IBs
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Old 11-10-2005, 02:20 PM   #724
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as ive said before how anybody in there right mind thinks a gp even oscars special gps can compete with a ib they need to get a grip there smelling to much motor cleaner
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Old 11-10-2005, 03:38 PM   #725
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Ive not tried Ib's, are they really that much better?

The video doesnt really prove much atall, there are so many other variables, you cant say it was just the cells that made masami quicker..... I personally dnt think he was much quicker speed wise, just seemed to me that he carried alot more corner speed and his lines were pretty much spot on.
Anybody know what wind masami was running? could also have been a factor.

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Old 11-10-2005, 03:43 PM   #726
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Ive not tried Ib's, are they really that much better?

The video doesnt really prove much atall, there are so many other variables, you cant say it was just the cells that made masami quicker..... I personally dnt think he was much quicker speed wise, just seemed to me that he carried alot more corner speed and his lines were pretty much spot on.
Anybody know what wind masami was running? could also have been a factor.

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They have become my cell of choice although I agree about the video. Masami's car was working better in the corners. Straight speed was even although masami may have been rolling on it. Only he knows I guess.
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Old 11-10-2005, 03:47 PM   #727
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Ive not tried Ib's, are they really that much better?

The video doesnt really prove much atall, there are so many other variables, you cant say it was just the cells that made masami quicker..... I personally dnt think he was much quicker speed wise, just seemed to me that he carried alot more corner speed and his lines were pretty much spot on.
Anybody know what wind masami was running? could also have been a factor.

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At that leval you hafto have more speed to carry more corner speed! Also at that leval, in the lead by the full length of the staight and lapping most of the field??? I think the cells did play a factor
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Old 11-10-2005, 03:49 PM   #728
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IB's are absolutly amazing. If you haven't tried them yet, your missing out. I've run 33's and 38's in my stock 1/12th and the IB's just dont fall off at the end of the 8 minutes. I pulled my fastest lap 39 laps into my race (a little more then 1/2 way done) last weekend and only fell off about a tenth of a second/lap in the last quarter of the race, where 3300's fall off a good 2 tenths or more per lap and much sooner then the IB's fall off. Blistering cells.
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Old 11-10-2005, 06:51 PM   #729
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2006 Snowbird Battery Rules:
- G.P. and I.B. / Epic cells only
- 3800 MAH and under are allowed

This was cut and pasted from the Snowbird site...Looks like Mike has already made his decision about IP cells.

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Old 11-10-2005, 07:22 PM   #730
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I am wondering if I should charge my packs any different for 19t? I have not tried the 19t class before but I will next week. Is runtime an issue in 19t touring (5 min) ? My packs are 405, 405, 413 on the labels by SMC. Only reason I ask is becaue I have seen a few people discuss step charging for 19t class, but I have only seen Danny suggest a linear charge. My charger will do either.

The local pro's at my track all use IB's now even the ones who were using GP's before. That's gotta count for something.
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IB cells do NOT like step charging at all. They will run flat in stock and 19 turn. It MIGHT get you a little more runtime in mod but wont have as much rip.

This is what I have found anyway.

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Thanks for the advice. I am looking forward to running two brand new packs with a brand new 19t for the first time.
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I would charge with a 6 amp linear charge. Set your peak detect at .03 or 30mVolts for a 6 cell pack. Tray them untill the lights go out right before you charge. After you run just take them down to .9 per cell or 5.4 as a pack.

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Old 11-10-2005, 08:40 PM   #734
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I would charge with a 6 amp linear charge. Set your peak detect at .03 or 30mVolts for a 6 cell pack. Tray them untill the lights go out right before you charge. After you run just take them down to .9 per cell or 5.4 as a pack.

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Adrian I really don't know where you come up with these conclusions about IB cells but you don't have it right. IB3800s are better for every class because the have higher capacity, higher voltage and lower IR than any other cells.

I am not 100% sure on this, and I do think the IB cells are amazing, but.....
now hear me out here.

When voltage is applied to a coil, a certain amount of that voltage is dissapated as heat as the voltage must overcome the reverse EMF produced by the mag field of the magnets. Now as you increase the voltage passing through the coils (hereby increasing the electron pressure) the current passes easier (current being amps) Therefore the motor produces more power by having more voltage to overcome the resistance and emf of the magnets, and therefore draws MORE current (amps). Though the rated capacity of the cells are higher than the GP 3700 the fact that they produce more voltage can (maybe) cause the motor to draw more current than it would have at a lower voltage, thereby decreasing the runtime of the pack on the track.....

This is one of the main reasons that 4 cell racing can go for 8 minutes and much longer if they wanted... Less voltage means less current draw, means longer run time.

Albeit, if used correctly, the extra speed can be used wisely running low wind motors and run time can be made.

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