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Old 05-30-2005, 09:19 PM   #16
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not even fully on, i was about to place the bottom two and they were half way on, then i pulled it out immediatlet after i saw the spark , let's just say my hands were on them the whole time during this incident.

So you think there was damage?
i dont think u damage that cells, if u did, its very minimal. mine was worst, the solder melted and cells got seprated from the pack. u should be fine
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Old 05-30-2005, 09:21 PM   #17
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Novak recommend not using the dead short feature? , why not??

also any replies to my previous question would be Greatly appreciated.
almost every cell manufacturer/matcher out there dont reccommend this procedure. there too many topics about dead shorting in this forum. do a search
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Old 05-30-2005, 09:24 PM   #18
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i dont think u damage that cells, if u did, its very minimal. mine was worst, the solder melted and cells got seprated from the pack. u should be fine
thanks , what a relief.
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Old 05-30-2005, 09:34 PM   #19
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Novak recommend not using the dead short feature? , why not??
it's sort of a disclaimer... you will find alot of different opinions about dead shorting. If your not sure about what your doing don't do it.
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Do you guys store your packs after traying them down to .9v? And before my heat should i tray them down to .1v then charge them? How does this plan sound for stock racing?
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Do you guys store your packs after traying them down to .9v? And before my heat should i tray them down to .1v then charge them? How does this plan sound for stock racing?
tray em just before charging. .1v eehhh its up to u
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Old 05-30-2005, 10:47 PM   #22
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Help !!!!! my pmr cells now charge peak at 3330mah??!! they used to charge to 3800mah?!! well this might have been do to that i trayed them down to .9v for the first time...but still 3330!!?? maybe i should've trayed down to .1v or deadshort them to get max. mah...is this permanet?!!!
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Help !!!!! my pmr cells now charge peak at 3330mah??!! they used to charge to 3800mah?!! well this might have been do to that i trayed them down to .9v for the first time...but still 3330!!?? maybe i should've trayed down to .1v or deadshort them to get max. mah...is this permanet?!!!
post charge settings?
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Help !!!!! my pmr cells now charge peak at 3330mah??!! they used to charge to 3800mah?!! well this might have been do to that i trayed them down to .9v for the first time...but still 3330!!?? maybe i should've trayed down to .1v or deadshort them to get max. mah...is this permanet?!!!
u got it the other way, dead shorting will not help gain MAH.
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what will then?? this really sucks if my cells stay like this
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post charge settings?
ch: 5amps
disch:10amps ( i know weak)
peak sensitivty: 5mv/c
dsch. volt.: 0.9v/c

then i trayed them to .9v,

first time they chraged at 3700 range then later to 3338!!

I have a duratrax ice
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Help??? i think i might have permantly damaged my cells...but how this tray do that?
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Old 05-30-2005, 11:32 PM   #28
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ch: 5amps
disch:10amps ( i know weak)
peak sensitivty: 5mv/c
dsch. volt.: 0.9v/c
then i trayed them to .9v,
first time they chraged at 3700 range then later to 3338!!
I have a duratrax ice
Your setting seems ok basically and I assumed you trayed packs to .9v before charging and discharged them to 5.4V/pack using your charger after every run after it has cooled down .How many times do you charge pack in a day? The MAH will reduce slightly as the # of charge increases per day but will get back after you give them a rest and charge again on the next race. Also try lowering your cut off v on the smart tray and see if the MAH increase. Does this happen to all your packs? I really don't mind what the MAH #'s says on the charger but if you're really crazy about the MAH look for someone who has a T35 or GFX and give your pack one cycle and take note of the runtime ( discharge time). Your pack is not damaged if the #'s are close to the label on the cells.
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well i'm worried becuase this was all within 2 consecutive cycles...i worry alot about mah beacuse it shows me how much longer i can use these cells...i cycled them 2 times today and 2 times yesterday...i hope your right about having them needing rest.
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don't cycle your packs if you don't really have to. Again don't be confused with MAH and actual runtime. It's the run time that you should worry about. I charged all my packs maximum of two times per day and my good packs only ones.
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