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Old 05-25-2005, 02:46 PM   #31
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I don't use them anymore and when I did I soldered them. Were I work we have all the proper crimpers since we use mostly aerospace quality connectors. We also solder many thing to help improve reliability. One little crimp joint bringing down a $billion particle accelerator is never a good thing and unfortunately it has happened.
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Old 05-25-2005, 03:24 PM   #32
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I personally like to solder just for own comfort. I ran deans and got in a wreck and they came apart. I think it was a fluke, but just for added security I prefer to solder.
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Old 05-25-2005, 03:40 PM   #33
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It doesn't really matter. With Deans you have the simplicity of plug and go, with direct soldeing you get a bit more strength.

Really though, if you direct solder alot over time, you have to replace your lead wires because of solder creep. (solder creeping up the wires and making them stiff)

Plugs definately require less maintenance.
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Old 05-25-2005, 04:54 PM   #34
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We also solder many thing to help improve reliability. One little crimp joint bringing down a $billion particle accelerator is never a good thing and unfortunately it has happened.[/QUOTE]

No doubt! Kinda eerie when your life depends on some else's solder joint!
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In the electrical trade the NEC code does'nt allow soldiering or heating of wires in any way. All connections are made from a pressure type connector or crimp. IE a lug with a screw that pinches the wire or something as simple as a wire nut. On loads that are subject to vibration the connections are taped in addition to the pressure connector. When a wire heats up its resistance increases. Take a #12 wire for instance at a normal ambient temprature 80 degrees. That conductor is good for about 20 amps. If I install the same wire in a location that could go above that for an extended period of time I would have to derate that wire. Or connect it to a smaller breaker.

But that being said I still soldier my batteries to my esc. I used to use deans on my batts and they performed great. I can't tell the difference with or without them. I just like the cleaner hookup in my car and the fact that I don't have the added cost when I buy new packs.
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Yes I remember that now,My electronics professor helped write the NEC Code book,talk about a stickler for details!
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Old 06-10-2005, 02:34 PM   #37
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I've been doing some research on hard wiring and connectors...but i still can't make up my mind?? right now i'm using deans, but i might decide to hard wiring directly to the batteries.
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I just went to Corally plugs from deans on my batteries. I solder my motors as I seldomly remove them. (I can still unattach my motorfor cleaning however)

here's why

A. Clean look
B. Less wire (you dont have to run both leads to the same place
C. Cheaper
D. Corally = easy as deans to plug/unplug
E. Doesn't require my iron to be on all day at the track

For me its the best of both worlds
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Old 06-10-2005, 02:58 PM   #39
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thanks maybe i'll go corally
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:25 PM   #40
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I've used corally connectors on my motors and batteries for some years now and suffered no adverse effect.
I personally don't think there is a performance difference between direct solder or connector - indeed, the esc I use (MRT) makes use of a small 'corally' type plug to connect the wires to the esc!

Removing/Replacing motors for cleaning etc is way quicker asn as others have said - there is no need for your iron to be on all day.
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i direct solder just for the look and cost effectiveness of no plugs.
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Old 06-10-2005, 04:03 PM   #42
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that's true no need to buy anymore connectors...hmmmm
I just think it's too much solder work if your in a rush.

but it wil teach you to be on time for your next heat.
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an alternative to the Corally connectors
are the Small Euro version that is 1/2 the size.
I've been using these for years.... very clean look.
can be purchased from Integy or overseas.
one advantage to these plus is that the male plug has multiple
soldering choices... from the top or from the side at 90deg.
I prefer the side..wire are flat with the cells..
I'll post pic later...

http://integy.automated-shops.com/cg...36105347092.43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rc-zombies
an alternative to the Corally connectors
are the Small Euro version that is 1/2 the size.
I've been using these for years.... very clean look.
can be purchased from Integy or overseas.
one advantage to these plus is that the male plug has multiple
soldering choices... from the top or from the side at 90deg.
I prefer the side..wire are flat with the cells..
I'll post pic later...

http://integy.automated-shops.com/cg...36105347092.43
please do -jb
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Old 06-11-2005, 12:05 AM   #45
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