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Old 05-19-2004, 11:33 AM   #1441
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Hey Turbo Joe

I just installed the reinforced arms myself and I had slop so I used O-Rings on the gearbox side to help reduce the slop. The problem can be that the O-Rings cause more binding in the system. Try reading this post from Pyscho et al.

http://www.formula1-rc.com/Forums/Sh...x?PostID=13868

I think he spread the Pivot Balls prior to installation which helped.

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Old 05-19-2004, 12:03 PM   #1442
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Any suggestions? I was thinking about trying to wedge the pivot balls apart some more.
The ORANGE o-rings work the best, the blue and black are firmer.
At first it will seem a little tight but after a couple of runs they will loosen up. Do not put o-rings everywhere, just on the bottom.
I got the FPM bump-steering rods from www.formula1-rc.com and FINALLY got them to really work well.

BTW splitting the pivot balls will cause even more trouble due to it's weaken state, Bump a wall and it's toast for the pivot and all around it. The second part is every time you take the stock screws in and out weakens the plastic. I've found that using titium screws work the best with this warning: DO NOT TIGHTEN THE SCREWS DOWN AS TIGHT AS YOU CAN GET IT. This will result in the same problem as above.

TIPS from the DICK:
1. Use tape/rubber bands on your stick pack battery on the left side of the car. Solves battery bouncing around/ falling out while the car is running.
2. Check all screws after car has cooled off, they seem to want to get loose.
3. Keep an eye on ride height 5mm iin front and 4.5mm in rear works on most tracks.
4. Camber solves most spin outs on corners and sharp turns.
5. Rear toe-in 1.5 to 2 Front 0 to 1 any more and sterring can become an adventure.
6. GO to formula1-rc and READ!!!! If you have a question it has been asked and answered there...
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Old 05-19-2004, 01:40 PM   #1443
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Thanks for the suggestions!
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i don't have a f-1 but some of the guys at my track are installing the balls, putting a drop of ca around it, letting it dry and then breaking the balls loose from the ca, the ca takes up the slop. not sure of the pros or cons of doing this, just thought i'd past it along.
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Old 05-20-2004, 03:40 PM   #1445
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That's an interesting idea. I would think that the ca would eventually fall out, though since the arms are nylon. I spread the balls on my car and it works pretty well. It took quite a bit of messing with to get each arm to have the same amount of movement, though. Apparently, not all of the reinforced arms have this problem. I built my car with them, so I'm sure that the slop wasn't the result of previous wear.
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Old 05-20-2004, 03:59 PM   #1446
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I'm not sure if it was on this thread but a while back someone had posted that he was making a nitro F1.

Anyone knows of any more info on this? Or the website of this person?

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Check out www.formula1-rc.com. They have some info on the nitro F1 (check either articles or news section). My understanding is that a couple of companies are working on this. One of them is Serpent, if I'm correct.
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The F201 based 1/10th scale nitro cars in the works are from FPM and DSE. I believe the possible Serpent car is a 1/8th.
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That's an interesting idea. I would think that the ca would eventually fall out, though since the arms are nylon.
i only just put the ca drops in a couple of months ago and have ran about 15packs so far, and the balls are still tight. i'll let you know if and when it falls out.
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Old 05-21-2004, 10:09 AM   #1450
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I heard from Steve Hickman that the Tamiya officials were not allowing the use of o-rings on the lower arms to take out slop. What I also heard from Fred Medel is you can use o-rings to take out slop, but you can't use them to change geometry. Basically I'm using them until I'm told otherwise.
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The F201 based 1/10th scale nitro cars in the works are from FPM and DSE. I believe the possible Serpent car is a 1/8th.
You are correct Sir..

Serpent is an 1/8 scale still in development..
FPM ( Nolan Farmer ) was close but still has not found an engine
to fit his car. The one he wanted was dis-continued.
DSE ( Calif ) which looks extremly close to FPM's version ( Nolan let them use some of his parts ) was suppose to release it's 2 WD version this month. Emails and phone calls go unanswered.....
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I've been waiting for the nitro version to come out. They must be coming across unforeseen problems with production.
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Old 05-22-2004, 11:50 PM   #1453
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Finally got my f201 today..What would be the first suggested hop ups to get and keep it TCS legal?
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Scroll up a page or two and you will see your answer.
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Old 05-24-2004, 03:24 PM   #1455
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I would also suggest checking out www.formula1-rc.com There is a lot of info in both article and forum form there.
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