4LikesSpeed Passion F1 car - The SP1
11-29-2013, 06:03 PM
#796
I've ran into the same problem with the AE ones. I had to tap those as well. Get yourself a 3mm tap anyway...there will be other times you will need it. The 3mm locknuts that I have seen from several brands lately have the nylon ring too small so they spin when trying to tighten down the football...just run a tap through those too and you will find assembling the car to be much easier.
Can't wait for my carbon and aluminum parts to show up. Not that there is anything wrong with the car out of the box, but we all like shiny bits and rebuilding perfectly functional cars, don't we?
12-01-2013, 06:15 PM
#799
First the bad news: I broke down during a first-place run in the A-Main last night when my motor backed off after I knicked a pipe. No idea how it did that, as I'm always OCD about my screws, but it did. It then shaved the tips of the spur gear, leaving behind some plastic dust. Doh. Would have been my first ever win.
The good news: I'm in the process of installing all the carbon-reinforced, carbon fiber and aluminum goodies I ordered. I just finished converting the front end to the 185mm setup, and I'm going to tackle the rear end next. I have to say, these are very nice!!! The pillow ball retainers went in butter smooth and as they should, while the metal lower pivot balls are a big improvement as well. Thanks SP!
The good news: I'm in the process of installing all the carbon-reinforced, carbon fiber and aluminum goodies I ordered. I just finished converting the front end to the 185mm setup, and I'm going to tackle the rear end next. I have to say, these are very nice!!! The pillow ball retainers went in butter smooth and as they should, while the metal lower pivot balls are a big improvement as well. Thanks SP!
12-02-2013, 10:43 PM
#801
Does anyone have a complete list of parts i need to convert the front suspension of the SP1 to the Tamiya 104? Please HELP!
12-03-2013, 04:09 PM
#803
Yeah sure. I will also list some alternatives.
Youll need:
plastic pieces...
tam51380 ( servo holder parts tree)
tam51381 ( f104 front a arm )
uprights, three different choices....
tam5325 ( these are the offset types)
tam54154 ( these come in the f104pro and f104 pro version2 )
tam54357 ( these are the hopup ones and are aluminum they also feature inline or trailing position) also expensive but worth it.
spring set...
tam50509
ball connectors...
tam50875 ( i cut mine down like 1.5 to 2mm and used my sp1's turnbuckles)
ball nuts...
tam53599 ( kit ball nuts are too small. )
option camber mount...
tam54202 ( gives you more options on camber degree, you can use the one that comes in the front a arm set but you wont have but 2 options of camber degree)
kingpins...
tam54160 ( hopup king pins)
suspension balls...
tam54161 ( hopup)
hardware...
tam19808240 ( 3.35mm screws counter sunk hex heads)
tam19804246 ( these shims go on the front steering axles)
eclips...
tam84177
Youll need:
plastic pieces...
tam51380 ( servo holder parts tree)
tam51381 ( f104 front a arm )
uprights, three different choices....
tam5325 ( these are the offset types)
tam54154 ( these come in the f104pro and f104 pro version2 )
tam54357 ( these are the hopup ones and are aluminum they also feature inline or trailing position) also expensive but worth it.
spring set...
tam50509
ball connectors...
tam50875 ( i cut mine down like 1.5 to 2mm and used my sp1's turnbuckles)
ball nuts...
tam53599 ( kit ball nuts are too small. )
option camber mount...
tam54202 ( gives you more options on camber degree, you can use the one that comes in the front a arm set but you wont have but 2 options of camber degree)
kingpins...
tam54160 ( hopup king pins)
suspension balls...
tam54161 ( hopup)
hardware...
tam19808240 ( 3.35mm screws counter sunk hex heads)
tam19804246 ( these shims go on the front steering axles)
eclips...
tam84177
Just playing devils advocate here, but the Tamiya front end does, arguably, look more "scalish". Some places have Tamiya parts more readily available, and not all of us care whether we win or not. So sometimes performance takes a back seat to other preferences. Also, there is less adjustability on the standard F104 front end, so that may be less intimidating to some.
12-03-2013, 04:47 PM
#804
This was posted earlier in the thread. Try not to be so lazy
Just playing devils advocate here, but the Tamiya front end does, arguably, look more "scalish". Some places have Tamiya parts more readily available, and not all of us care whether we win or not. So sometimes performance takes a back seat to other preferences. Also, there is less adjustability on the standard F104 front end, so that may be less intimidating to some.
Just playing devils advocate here, but the Tamiya front end does, arguably, look more "scalish". Some places have Tamiya parts more readily available, and not all of us care whether we win or not. So sometimes performance takes a back seat to other preferences. Also, there is less adjustability on the standard F104 front end, so that may be less intimidating to some.
12-03-2013, 05:09 PM
#805
Simple,
thanks for the list. I must have not looked far back enough on the thread. The big problem I have with the SP1 here is that carbon reinforced parts are not available yet here in Malaysia, and the standard front arms don't like the tropical heat - they warp!!!. There are a couple of guys who run the SP1 here and all have the same feedback.
thanks for the list. I must have not looked far back enough on the thread. The big problem I have with the SP1 here is that carbon reinforced parts are not available yet here in Malaysia, and the standard front arms don't like the tropical heat - they warp!!!. There are a couple of guys who run the SP1 here and all have the same feedback.
12-03-2013, 10:08 PM
#806
12-04-2013, 04:47 AM
#807
Tech Rookie
The holes seem to be pre-threaded. I also worried about breakage or the threads stripping, but actually the springs/holders/screws aren't that exposed to crash damage, certainly no more than on a TRF or Exotek chassis.
12-04-2013, 05:16 AM
#809
Simple,
thanks for the list. I must have not looked far back enough on the thread. The big problem I have with the SP1 here is that carbon reinforced parts are not available yet here in Malaysia, and the standard front arms don't like the tropical heat - they warp!!!. There are a couple of guys who run the SP1 here and all have the same feedback.
thanks for the list. I must have not looked far back enough on the thread. The big problem I have with the SP1 here is that carbon reinforced parts are not available yet here in Malaysia, and the standard front arms don't like the tropical heat - they warp!!!. There are a couple of guys who run the SP1 here and all have the same feedback.
12-04-2013, 08:49 AM
#810
With that much of the grub screw sticking out on top, it's basically no different from using the button head screw, imho. For my install, since I'm using the outer holes of the battery holder which do not interfere with the side damper top deck, I just continued to use the button head screws. If I move the springs inward I may try the grub screws.