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Old 08-14-2006, 06:04 AM   #646
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Youch!

Hope the Cyclone is alright... No bubbling resin I hope...
I'm glad the GTB hasn't gone up in smoke like that. The electrics are crammed so tight in the car, the rx would be toast too!!

I feel sorry for your LRP. Hope the warrantee sorts itself out smoothly..
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Old 08-14-2006, 06:15 AM   #647
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Hope the Cyclone is alright... No bubbling resin I hope...
I'm glad the GTB hasn't gone up in smoke like that. The electrics are crammed so tight in the car, the rx would be toast too!!

I feel sorry for your LRP. Hope the warrantee sorts itself out smoothly..
yes the Cyclone is fine , but the GTB is going back in for sure
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Old 08-19-2006, 05:41 PM   #648
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Wow! I can't believe that the LRP Sphere is still having problems!

I spoke recently with one of Associated's top Off-Road Drivers and I know he had a prototype Sphere Competition ESC on his kit... Maybe LRP found more problems even with the Sphere Competition which is why their top Drivers probably use an updated version... something not yet available in the Brushless market?!?

Hope they sort things out once and for all as all these problems don't help the overall Brushless cause!
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Wow! I can't believe that the LRP Sphere is still having problems!

I spoke recently with one of Associated's top Off-Road Drivers and I know he had a prototype Sphere Competition ESC on his kit... Maybe LRP found more problems even with the Sphere Competition which is why their top Drivers probably use an updated version... something not yet available in the Brushless market?!?

Hope they sort things out once and for all as all these problems don't help the overall Brushless cause!
yes they are first my rotor came apart then my ESC went up in smoke
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Old 08-19-2006, 10:38 PM   #650
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WoW !

Still not one problem with my Sphere or my Neo`s......(own a 1 & a 2 star)




Run`s & Run`s .........


Guess I`m doing something right.....
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Yeah, yer going slow :P :P :P

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Yeah, yer going slow :P :P :P

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Yeah, yer going slow :P :P :P

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Like you would know ...


Maybe send one of your boys down to play and find out how slow ?
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Will you settle for Phelps or should fly in Al Horne? Or maybe just go all out and bring in Travis Amezcua....


Put that hunk of garbage in a touring car and watch it go boom....

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Old 08-19-2006, 11:39 PM   #655
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Guy`s here my thought`s...
I race off-road with the Sphere....

in a Ae B-4..

With this package I don`t even come close to the power load`s you can see with a Sedan...

but...

I`v have race & practice with my Sphere in a Sedan for about three days...

When I ran with the Sedan I found really easy to over gear the brushless...

Lots of racer`s read, motor is like a 10T brush, like, a 3 Star for instance ...

but...

If you gear the 3 Star like a 10T brush you will not see the potential with the 3 Star.

and

there`s a good chance you overheat with the 1st try ...

Oooo ? Don`t give me story, you checked the motor and it was`nt hot !!!


These brushless motor`s are different, they get hot(rotor) from the inside more than the hotside....(Experience)

sure !

I know a few failed because of manufacture mistakes, but they are not as common as many would suggest compared to overheating the system...

Now if someone with a sedan & a 10T brush came up to you and show you his burning can , would you blame the motor so quickly ? Or, maybe be more reasonable about checking pinion size being use....

and

Would you be surprise,
if that same racer had Esc problems a few pack`s later ?

We all know from experience that 10T brush motors usually do not toast as a rule, so from experience we check for the other reason`s...

Give these brushless the same chance and you to will discover they are different from a brush motor`s gear ratio requirements...


*They do not like to be geared like a similar brush motor that compares with power...

*They need to be geared lower & they like a bigger spur than your use to using ...

I think if we all had more experience many would of naturally started with a good pinon size the 1st time..

These motor`s are different still & we have just started to learn...

My Thoughts....

Hope you learn from my experience...
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Will you settle for Phelps or should fly in Al Horne? Or maybe just go all out and bring in Travis Amezcua....


Put that hunk of garbage in a touring car and watch it go boom....

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Amezcua might do ?

even Phelps....

But it will take somebody as good them to get the job done....
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Old 08-20-2006, 04:02 AM   #657
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I'm very happy with my Sphere comp. and 4star , even running in high air temp. weather 33degrees celsius, play with GP3300 over 7min run time in medium size track. I have install a MuchMore fan top of the esc , after a run my esc only 50degrees, motor 70degrees with final gear ratio 10.25
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Old 08-21-2006, 11:36 AM   #658
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Need some advice:

I'm finally getting into brushless...I purchased an LRP sphere and Reedy Neo system. Finally installed in my 415 and ran the system in front of my house. Smooth aspahlt so no big deal.

Overall roll-out was 31mm.

Ran the car for 1/2 a pack with setting #1 to see what the 24,000 rpm limit felt like and than the remaining with setting #2 (drivability setting)...Very nice difference.

Next pack I switched to Setting #3 and all hell broke loose. The car was ballistic...(almost as fun an 1/8th on-road)...I was having fun tunning the brakes and blasting up and down the block.

Suddenly the car sounded like the diff was slipping so I inspected the car...everthing was fine, except when the car was on the ground...you can hear the motor spinning but the pinion gear was not moving.

I pulled then motor put and realized the armature shaft nearly pulled out of the can. Now I intend to send the motor back to Associated but does anyone have an idea what maybe wrong. I have not pulled the back plate off, perhaps it is an easy fix?

On another note...this will not stop me from going out and buying another brushless motor...the fact that I do not have to cut comms is worth the growing pains. Looking forward to modified carpet season.

Does anyone make a "stock" or "19t" equivalent type motor? What would you suggest for modified?

Thanks for the help
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Does anyone make a "stock" or "19t" equivalent type motor? What would you suggest for modified?Thanks for the help
Yes, the Novak SS4300 is close to a 19T brushed motor. It generates 175W of power, whereas good 19T brushed motors can get up as high as 180-185W of power. So it's pretty close.

As for modified, well, there are many choices that are very fast. Neo 2,3,and 4 star, Novak 5800, 7.5T all the way through 3.5T brushless.
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Yes, the Novak SS4300 is close to a 19T brushed motor. It generates 175W of power, whereas good 19T brushed motors can get up as high as 180-185W of power. So it's pretty close.

As for modified, well, there are many choices that are very fast. Neo 2,3,and 4 star, Novak 5800, 7.5T all the way through 3.5T brushless.
A 4300 wont come close to a 19T on asphalt. Not sure on carpet.
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