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Old 10-07-2006, 06:14 AM   #811
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Has anyone done a discharge comparison (produced graphs) using the same cells and discharger after charging on the Spintec ICC and another high-end charger?
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Old 10-07-2006, 04:41 PM   #812
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Yes I have, I noticed basically no difference. Maybe slightly more when charged from the ICC, and by slightly I am talking less that 100mah, and a difference that small can vairy each time you do a discharge test anyway.
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Old 10-08-2006, 03:56 AM   #813
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The main difference I find is that when each cell is charged individually, it also stops being charged when it is full.

With a plain charger that means that aproximately 2 cells are overcharged, 2 cells are charged well and 2 cells undercharged.

We all hate undercharged cells but what is more important is that the overcharged cells will drag the pack's performance down and the extra heat will slowly kill the cell.

Besides, this is a very good way to keep an eye on your pack's status. You know when tour pack is starting to deteriorate.
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Old 10-08-2006, 06:13 AM   #814
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I agree, if I had it my way, i would actually say this is the charger to get for all your not so peak performance packs, cause it will make sure cells that have deteriorated do not deteriorate any more due to over charging and make the packs stay good longer.


On a top notch matched pack, i am not expect this charger to do anyhting that will make it better.
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Old 10-08-2006, 06:36 AM   #815
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Used mine for the first time yesterday, had an operator error before the main but very happy with it's performance.

With all the cells being peaked individually, I think a matched pack would maintain it's match longer.
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Old 10-08-2006, 10:19 AM   #816
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With all the cells being peaked individually, I think a matched pack would maintain it's match longer.
I agree, the over- and undercharging with a regular charger will cause the match level to drop further faster.

rcnewb2004: You're probably right. But pack's are matched on discharge values and not on charge values.

Anyway, I'm very happy with it. I'm now using it to re-match my packs from 4 x 6-cell to 6 x 4-cell for the 1:12 winter season.
This way I know I have good packs and don't need to buy new ones for the winter. The ICC saves me money this way
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Old 10-12-2006, 10:53 AM   #817
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i tried to upgrade the charger but once the process begin the program just disappeared on the screen and there was only blue screen on the display. So I tried the other computer using :
com 1 , 8 bit , no piority bit ,no hardware control, and 1.
the progrom started, and there was a progress bar. waited for 3 min.
It worked. So just make sure your setting is right.
before I used another computer, I called spintec.They answer it right away and I was told it will automatically switch to PC mode and this mode is hardware portected.
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Old 10-12-2006, 03:54 PM   #818
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i am happy again.... i don't know where i found the courage... but i took apart the icc.... found that one of the spring posts inside the icc was loose... popped it back into place... resoldered it... and i "think" it works again... i will find out if it does after i charge the pack!

Did you just have to solder around the larger diameter metal part of the spring?

I noticed the same thing today on mine,aftert taking the top off, at least two others are also loose

Hmm, not good for a very expensive charger.

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Old 10-12-2006, 05:22 PM   #819
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yes I did.... i agree.. that was not impressive.... but I realize i had to be very careful when inserting the pack... not to give the pins a "downwards" motion... must always ensure the pack is in... witihout pushing the pins downwards.

non the less... I still enjoy my icc charger and I think once it comes out with lipo charging ability and maybe a balance protector.... it will be even more awesome.
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I just hope my PC board never breaks where they mount at.
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Old 10-12-2006, 10:26 PM   #821
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it should not happen if you insert the pack carefully

asides from this... the icc is pretty durable!
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hey guys where is the best place to get one of these chargers at a good price from a reputable mail order place? thanks..
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$349.99: http://www.thercshack.com/index.asp?...OD&ProdID=4503
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Old 10-13-2006, 05:40 AM   #824
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Here are some pics of what to look for just in case anyone else wants to know what the problem is.
Shots are looking up at the PCB from the underneath;

First one is a main post that has come off, the second shot is of a dry joint that is about to go.
I'll be re-soldering all of them after work .
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Here are some pics of what to look for just in case anyone else wants to know what the problem is.
Shots are looking up at the PCB from the underneath;

First one is a main post that has come off, the second shot is of a dry joint that is about to go.
I'll be re-soldering all of them after work .
Classic sign of "cold" solder joint. I hope Spintec sees these pics and corrects their production source. I'm strongly looking at one of these units but I'm still cautious due to the "issues" that they seem to have.
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