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Old 04-24-2005, 10:11 PM   #1
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I'm in the market for a shell (carpet rubber tires) that has good aerodynamics and good overall steering. I want some rear downforce but not too much. Something REAL neutral I guess. The Mazda 6 feels like its giving me a little too much grip. I'm thinking a Stratus 2 might be what I'm looking for. Also thinking about a Losi Skoda. I have access to some Yokomo Stratus Type-A's too

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Hey,

I'm in the market for a shell (carpet rubber tires) that has good aerodynamics and good overall steering. I want some rear downforce but not too much. Something REAL neutral I guess. The Mazda 6 feels like its giving me a little too much grip. I'm thinking a Stratus 2 might be what I'm looking for. Also thinking about a Losi Skoda. I have access to some Yokomo Stratus Type-A's too


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The Stratus 2.0 works really well in stock and 19T.
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Hey,

I'm in the market for a shell (carpet rubber tires) that has good aerodynamics and good overall steering. I want some rear downforce but not too much. Something REAL neutral I guess. The Mazda 6 feels like its giving me a little too much grip. I'm thinking a Stratus 2 might be what I'm looking for. Also thinking about a Losi Skoda. I have access to some Yokomo Stratus Type-A's too

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It's all in your head. You are not going to really feel much difference between ANY modern sedan body that is IFMAR/ROAR approved.

They all have basically the same hoodline, roofline, wing and such. Get what you like.

Don't buy into all the "body X is SO much better than body Y" routine. It's a bunch of silly wive's tales.
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It's all in your head. You are not going to really feel much difference between ANY modern sedan body that is IFMAR/ROAR approved.

They all have basically the same hoodline, roofline, wing and such. Get what you like.

Don't buy into all the "body X is SO much better than body Y" routine. It's a bunch of silly wive's tales.
There IS a difference between bodies, just because maybe you can't feel a difference doesn't mean there isn't one.
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Old 04-24-2005, 11:43 PM   #5
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bodys make all the difference in handling, steering , traction....
on carpet with rubber tires ride mk 3 , 3.0 stratus mazda 6 for sure. check out the lrp masters race on this website that is the biggest rubber carpet race on the planet if you think bodies dont make any difference these guys must really suck......
soviet you dont race on any level with comments like that....
please reframe from being stupid its really not cool ......
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I dunno about Soviet, but I sure can feel a difference between bodies. Even changing wings on bodies. I guess some people are more basher/hobbyist than hobbyist/racer. But it's all good. At least they are supporting the "hobby".

Anyways.. Stratus 2.0 is good. But if you really want something neutral, why not the Parma Alfa or Stratus 3.0? I know the Parma is more of a carpet body. But it's very neutral. However, I'm not sure how body clearance is with rubber tires. I know the Stratus 3.0 would clear your tires. So you could consider that.
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There are alot of bodies that work well on rubber tires. It seems like alot of the bodies lean towards the high downforce type such as the mazda 6, the Rayspeed Accord, or any of the ride bodies. They are optimized for Rubber tire racing.

If the Mazda 6 feels too stuck for you, you could always try the yokomo Stratus type E. The Type E seems very similar to the mazda, just a little more steering, and the back end rotates a bit better mid corner.

The hot body right now at the local carpet track is the rayspeed accord. I've heard it produces alot of front downforce and instantly gives you more steering. Hope this helps you out.

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Yes, I can vouch for the RaySpeed Accord. I ran that on carpet alot too. Lots of steering. I had to run the Parma Alfa to "neutralize" the car down when I needed it.
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I didn't have good luck with the parma alfa with rubber tires..... Seemed liek the entire car didn't have the downforce it needed. It's beyond dialed for foam tire racing though.

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Old 04-25-2005, 12:23 AM   #10
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Hi guys i am kinda new here i always run stratus' usually protoform or yokomo but i tried a Protoform S60 volvo vody and i found it had very neutral handling with rubber in stock!! now i found that if you have to much steering instead of a drastic setup change just try the volvo body and youll find it gets rid of a little but not to much make the car flow nicely!! the rest is up to your hands...lol anyways tat is my two sense... and again i completely agree body does make a huge difference!! that is like sayin anytire will give you the same grip.. just because they are scale toys doesnt mean that they dont react the same as normal cars for the most part!! anyways guys let me know if you agree or disagree!!
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bodys make all the difference in handling, steering , traction....
on carpet with rubber tires ride mk 3 , 3.0 stratus mazda 6 for sure. check out the lrp masters race on this website that is the biggest rubber carpet race on the planet if you think bodies dont make any difference these guys must really suck......
soviet you dont race on any level with comments like that....
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You people REALLY need to get over yourselves.

Get your car mechanically setup properly for your track and then try say a Mazda 6 and compare it to a Stratus 3.0.

Very little difference.

And no...it's not being stupid, it's being objective and not riding the collective group-think that is this hobby at it's upper echelon.

(Translation) It means that all the bandwagoner folks online seem to buy into the same pre-conceived notions without checking things out for themselves.

The right or wrong choice of say tire, will be a much larger factor than a 3mm difference in roofline from one body to the next.
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Soviet, there is a pretty significant difference from body to to body. I really like the Parma Alfa right now, seems to be a great balanced body. The Protoform CTS is a solid body, but it tends to be pushy. For me the Mazda 6 felt like it pushed really bad from the middle of the corner out. The 2.0 stratus seemed like it was a little better balanced that the 1.0, as the car was a bit too free with the 1.0. I've also tried the Frewer stratus on carpet and while it seemed pretty good on asphalt, it had waaaaay too much steering for carpet.
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And BTW. Mike McDaniels at Debbies this last Saturday ran a Hummer H2 body just for laughs on his Xray FK'05. He still dominated.


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You people REALLY need to get over yourselves.

Get your car mechanically setup properly for your track and then try say a Mazda 6 and compare it to a Stratus 3.0.

Very little difference.

And no...it's not being stupid, it's being objective and not riding the collective group-think that is this hobby at it's upper echelon.

(Translation) It means that all the bandwagoner folks online seem to buy into the same pre-conceived notions without checking things out for themselves.

The right or wrong choice of say tire, will be a much larger factor than a 3mm difference in roofline from one body to the next.
I would have to agree and disagree. Between some shells (Mazda, Stratus, Accord etc) there is not much difference if any but when you change to a bodyshell with different overall shape like the Alfa, Astra etc you can notice a huge difference between the shells.

Try running a Protoform Mazda 6 and then put on the Alfa for example. The Mazda will give a great feel with x set up. With the same set up you will hit every board or corner marker for a few laps to you get used to the steering difference.
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You can even feel a difference between the Stratus3 Carpet and AP version.

It is cool that people here help each other out. It's just that some with questionable experience/expertise can make blanket statements like the one previously mentioned by Soviet and lead those seeking help astray.
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