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Old 04-25-2005, 12:07 PM   #16
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Soviet, there is a pretty significant difference from body to to body. I really like the Parma Alfa right now, seems to be a great balanced body. The Protoform CTS is a solid body, but it tends to be pushy. For me the Mazda 6 felt like it pushed really bad from the middle of the corner out. The 2.0 stratus seemed like it was a little better balanced that the 1.0, as the car was a bit too free with the 1.0. I've also tried the Frewer stratus on carpet and while it seemed pretty good on asphalt, it had waaaaay too much steering for carpet.
Gary, I always get crucified when I express my views on this subject, however it's just how I feel after years of running / racing various cars.

I am and have always been more of a "setup purist." As in I place much more emphasis on learning my chassis and learning how to tune it perfectly. What that means is that I don't buy the car of the week OR the body of the month.

I stick with a platform and learn it inside and out. I learn it so well that if I need a certain type of handling I know what to do mechanically as opposed to slapping on different lexan.
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Old 04-25-2005, 12:08 PM   #17
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You can even feel a difference between the Stratus3 Carpet and AP version.

It is cool that people here help each other out. It's just that some with questionable experience/expertise can make blanket statements like the one previously mentioned and lead those seeking help astray.
It's not leading anyone astray, it's expressing a different opinion than yours and most of the keyboard racers on here.
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Old 04-25-2005, 12:31 PM   #18
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your hurting your polluting the web with your red ways you are a big race poser with less than five seconds of racing exp.......
go back inside a read all about socialism you need it hitler
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I'm in the market for a shell (carpet rubber tires) that has good aerodynamics and good overall steering. I want some rear downforce but not too much. Something REAL neutral I guess. The Mazda 6 feels like its giving me a little too much grip. I'm thinking a Stratus 2 might be what I'm looking for. Also thinking about a Losi Skoda. I have access to some Yokomo Stratus Type-A's too

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hey dan... i used the stratus 2.0 at gilroy last time i raced. it has that neutral feeling you want. also tested the ride Accord along with a ride stratus Mk.III while i was up there.

lets just say i know why masami and adachi (mk.III) used it at the LRP masters race. oh yah.. i didnt change anything on my set up when i test all three bodies.
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Uh, while not on topic, at least know what you're talking about...

Hitler= Faciast
Soviets= Communist

It would have been more acurate to whip out a Stalin line...Know your history or we are doomed to repeat it...

Soviet, I don't run the body of the month...the shell I run has been out for nearly 18 Months. It tends to provide the right balance I like on my cars. I run the Alfa on my Pro 4, 415, Evo 3, and TC4. I like how it handles. Experimented with a number of different bodies on my Pro 4, and found that this was what worked best for me and my setup. You have to realize that at scale speed, these cars are going over 400 MPH! Aerodynamics most certainly play a difference. Additionally, on high banked oval racing, you can get a draft and you can notice an aero push when following someone else.
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Old 04-25-2005, 12:45 PM   #21
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go back inside a read all about socialism you need it hitler
Wow...

I saw bad grammar, incorrect subject-verb agreement and you somehow managed to make Hitler a Socialist, something I think the late Fuhrer would strongly object to.

I guess I'm a poser though and "dumb" as it was stated earlier. So I'll gladly leave the keyboard racing to experts like you.

Hell, I was probably racing while you were still in diapers.
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Old 04-25-2005, 12:50 PM   #22
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Hell, I was probably racing while you were still in diapers.
Actually the quote goes like this:

Kirk: You say history considers me dead. Who am I to argue with history?
Picard: You're a Starfleet officer. You have a duty!
Kirk: I don't need to be lectured by you. I was out saving the galaxy when your grandfather was in diapers. Besides which, I think the galaxy owes me one.

Sorry, couldn't resist, plus it seemed like this was getting waaaaay too heated.
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Old 04-25-2005, 12:51 PM   #23
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Uh, while not on topic, at least know what you're talking about...

Hitler= Faciast
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It would have been more acurate to whip out a Stalin line...Know your history or we are doomed to repeat it...

Soviet, I don't run the body of the month...the shell I run has been out for nearly 18 Months. It tends to provide the right balance I like on my cars. I run the Alfa on my Pro 4, 415, Evo 3, and TC4. I like how it handles. Experimented with a number of different bodies on my Pro 4, and found that this was what worked best for me and my setup. You have to realize that at scale speed, these cars are going over 400 MPH! Aerodynamics most certainly play a difference. Additionally, on high banked oval racing, you can get a draft and you can notice an aero push when following someone else.
I know Gary...I shouldn't say there isn't ANY difference, as we all know there is. I'm simply saying that for a "new" racer the difference will be so minimal that it's not really worth worrying about so much.

In other words I felt the BlackKat was placing too much emphasis on the choice of body.

Example: In 12th scale I was running the Speed 8 for a while, I then switched to the Parma Zytek. The Zytek does have a bit more downforce to it because I was able to gun it around a sweeper that I couldn't before.

However when I switched back to my Speed 8 I was able to get the same effect with the Zytek just by putting in a few more turns of rear main spring to get the car to lurch onto the front wheels a bit more.

So basically I was able to reproduce the feeling of the Zytek's downforce with just a small mechanical adjustment.
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Now that I agree with. Many times new racers will concentrate on the small details while the large ones get overlooked. I think, on carpet, if you go with any of the popular styles (Alfa, 2.0/3.0 Stratus, Mazda 6, etc) they should be aerodynamically in the ballpark.
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im not made at ya dude im made at your mom for raising such a Dumb racer ........im 34 and have many titles ...racing in since 88
come out to cali dude you'll get waxed stay home on the range
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Now that I agree with. Many times new racers will concentrate on the small details while the large ones get overlooked. I think, on carpet, if you go with any of the popular styles (Alfa, 2.0/3.0 Stratus, Mazda 6, etc) they should be aerodynamically in the ballpark.
which ball park.. some are made for hitters.. some are for pitchers....

depends if your greg maddux... or mark maguire.
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Chris, you're problem isn't the body...you just can't freaking drive!
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Old 04-25-2005, 01:00 PM   #28
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Chris, you're problem isn't the body...you just can't freaking drive!
ya ya.. MAYO in your eye buddy!

sorry shane.. we'll stop now.
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I think what soviet means is that any of the popular ROAR/IFMAR bodies (Stratus 1,2,3, Mazda, alpha, etc) can be competitive with the correct chassis setup.

I do believe, however, that there are precious tenths of seconds to be found by body tuning. To rule it out in favor of ONLY chassis tuning is limiting yourself.
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im not made at ya dude im made at your mom for raising such a Dumb racer ........im 34 and have many titles ...racing in since 88
come out to cali dude you'll get waxed stay home on the range
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Does anybody understand a word this guy is saying? I guess the short bus left you behind again huh. Oh ...Cali. I'll leave it at that.

The body is an after thought at best. If your setup is on, you could run anything.
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