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Old 02-08-2002, 09:38 AM   #661
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The new 3000HV cells that I just bought, came already shrink wrapped. Man, it took some massive effort(and modifying) to fit those things into the Corally battery craddles!

Note to Corally: I know these battery craddles have served you well for what......ten plus years, or longer probably, but damn, its time to redisign them. Do this so that they can fit newer cells more easily. My unshrink wrappedd 2400 cells barely fit!

I think I will also email Corally a similar message like the one above. I normally don't add shrink wrap my cells, but if the company I buy them from decide to add it for free, I'm certainly not going to remove it.

Its definitely time for some more up to date battery trays.
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Oh I think the c4.1 has plenty of steering even without one-ways. In fact I've removed the center one-way from my car entirely and only use the front one way on huge tracks that aren't as technical so as to keep the steering conservative on smaller tracks. Any one that has driven my car tells me it has massive turn in compared to their cars and this is in full time 4wd mode. It's all up to my droop settings and shock loads. So if Corally goes with 1 belt then i'm all for it- heck go with shaft drive if they like...!

Here's an e-mail I sent to Corally USA and Denmark a while back....

>Hello Corally,
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>I'm a big fan of the Corally C4 line and have been driving it with much
>success for the past couple of years and am very pleased with it's
>performance, adjustability and durability. Over time I have noted some
>things that would be practical to integrate into the next version of the C4.
>I hope you like these suggestions and are able to use them....
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>1. CVD axles that don't pivot back and forth when you steer.
>2. Hard anodize bones and axle for better wear.
>3. Front upper arms that do not hit the steer rods when turning.
>4. Optional titanium hinge pins and pillow balls. Perhaps a new suspension
>that uses the smaller (Ofna OB4) pillow balls for lower unsprung weight.
>5. One piece axle pads.
>6. Diffs- New larger and lighter pulleys (Losi), no o-rings, D notched rings
>(HPI), lower but easier maintenance and access from the bulkheads, center
>bearings, smaller standard diff balls and hard coated diff halves for longer
>wear.
>7.Shocks- Lower profile, no clickers, Asian style/ quality seems to perform
>better than the serpent shocks and seal up better.
>8. Shock towers- Lower profile, constant radius arch of mounting holes,
>thicker-less flex. Wider front shock towers with more hole options.
>9. Center pulley larger so belt doesn't need to be tight and belt flexes
>less.- one belt too? If one belt then more like kyosho than losi (kyosho's
>is much more efficient).
>10. Front tweak screw access from the top.
>11. Double plate front foam bumper mount. Molded lower plate instead of cut
>kydex bumper (current bumper too soft).
>12. Hard anodized center lay shaft for longer wear.
>13. Better body mount system- screw down is clumsy and weak on the body top.
>14. Shorter rear chassis overhang allows better ground clearance on hi-speed
>tracks. Rear chassis drags too much.
>15. Raised inner rear hinge pins.
>16. Finned motor plate/ bulkhead for heat dispersement (gets very hot here
>in the US).
>15. Expanded manual to help amateur racers with more set-up suggestions and
>tuning help.
>
>Thanks for your attention. My race friends and I look forward to the next
>version of the awesome C4!

.....replied...

"Mike,
Thanks for your suggestions for the new C4 car. I will forward this to our
engineering department for them to evaluate and look into.

Thanks again for your suggestions. Many have been noted already and are
currently being added or updated.

If you have any questions or comments please feel free to email me back or give
us a call.

Regards,
Ken Higby"
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Old 02-08-2002, 02:02 PM   #663
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SA- let's see it! Can't wait for LongBeach Grand Prix... just a couple months.
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Old 02-08-2002, 02:25 PM   #664
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Thats a long list!

Some of it I agree with some I don't, but its a nice group of things for them to consider.

The only things I would change is that I don't see a problem at all with the current shocks. They seem like some of the best around to me.

And I don't really care if its one or two belts. But, one belt would leave only one option for a one way, and I don't like front one-ways. Their too fragile. But, again, if the car has plenty of steering out of the box, I wouldn't need a one-way at all. Thats why I don't care if its one or two belts.

I also would have added

1. new battery trays made to fit modern cells
2. battery hold downs similar to the Xray units.

At least we both agree that the Kyosho cars belt system is pretty sweet.

Do you still run that car? Or is the one-way still keeping it sidelined?
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Old 02-08-2002, 02:54 PM   #665
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No I sold it- too top heavy. It kept traction rolling on carpet It was killer fast until you had to turn haha!
Sweet driveline- bad battery placement (on top of belt) but i learned alot from the car.
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Old 02-08-2002, 05:26 PM   #666
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Got rid of it huh? So did you replace it with another car for carpet, or do you just decide to go with the C4.1 for carpet too.
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Old 02-10-2002, 04:06 PM   #667
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Official word from on Corally (Euro) in response to my questions re: a new car:

Dear Paul,

thank you very much for your email. How are you today?
Unfortunately, we are not allowed to give any information about the new touring car in order to avoid situation like X-Ray to happen in future (again).
We can only tell you that it will be released later this year - may be for the Worlds it will be ready.
So there was no new car introduced on the Nuremberg Toy Fair.

Best Regards

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we can only hope that the new car is ready for the worlds, but it is pretty optimistic, considering the worlds is only a few months away...

I cant wait to see what they come up with, I'm hoping its an entirely new design (not that theres anything wrong with the current), Im just hoping for something radically different.


I ran the front shock tower on the car all day yesterday in testing, and Im really happy with the handling of the gar, It is generating tremendous initial steering and good mid corner balance with this setup..
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Yes I hope they come out with an insanely creative and new car too- Someone made a good point earlier about Corally always comes out with something radically different so let's see. Sometimes though refinements are better than wholesale changes---so I guess we'll see...
That's funny Mr. Ishii is calling out Xray like that- no spying on the team racers prototypes again...[joke]

Darkside- Nah- the KX1 was just an experiment. I like to try different cars now and then just to learn and compare- The C4 is still my baby
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Well, at least we don't have to guest about whether there is actually a new car in the works.

Man, what Mr. Ishii said certainly gives a little taste of why Corally hates XRay and Hudy so much now. I wonder how many T1 features were originally Corally ideas.

King-G: thats not really too optimistic if you think about it. We have no idea exactly how long they have been working on this car. My guess is that they have been at it since the whole Xray debacle. If thats the case, they could certainly be nearing the final prototype by World's time.

MikeR: I hear you there. I too like to try different cars every once in a while. Some would even say I try them on a whim. Difference with me is, I change my main car instead of the backup car. I couple years ago I found myself without a single Schumacher in my stable, and I regretted it. Not making that mistake again. So I just switch my main car now and then, depending on what impresses me.

I actually thought about switching to the Mission as my main car, and having an all Scumacher garage. But to be fair, I'll wait and see what Corally has in store with its new offering, in both features AND price!
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H e l l o......

....Man we just find out for sure that the company that makes our car is coming out with a new one pretty soon, and then the thread falls to the bottom of the board.

Come on, wheres the speculation, wheres the "well I think it will have this..."

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re: new corally,

well i think...

it will have a spilt top deck included!

won't have dodgy layshaft oneway (it will be absent or improved)

will have a decent oneway diff included???

will have the ability for cell's forward, back, left or right.

will use T10 torx screws! (this i know for sure )
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we'll I'm guessing it might depart from the current design, something new..

you have to remember the c4 design has been around for quite a while..

hmmm..single belt, double decked, pivot ball, new arms/hubs, new geometry..

larger radius pulley, and diffs...who knows?
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hey might even be shaft drive!
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Man, even I took the time to send in my speculation...MikeR, I'll take a photo of the body this weekend and post it...looks good.

I don't think we will see anymore Serpent parts...with the Hudy-Serpent connection, it would be weird for corally to continue to support serpent.

But hey, I have been wrong before.

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