R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-20-2005, 09:51 PM   #1
Tech Elite
 
RCknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,273
Trader Rating: 5 (100%+)
Default Searching for a great carpet car...Pro 4, RDX, Xray05...

I could use some help in my decision. Pros and cons of each for carpet would be helpful. Thanks.
RCknight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2005, 09:56 PM   #2
Tech Master
 
scoobydo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Bay Area San Jose
Posts: 1,501
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

The Pro 4 rips on asphalt but has not had much success in carpet races.
I hear nothing but Raves for the FK05 on carpet. Take a look at recent results, they are taking the comp out.
I have not heard anythign on the RDX, but since it is very similar to the FK05, I would assume it would be a great carpet car.
scoobydo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2005, 10:13 PM   #3
Tech Elite
 
imprsme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Va.
Posts: 3,733
Trader Rating: 74 (99%+)
Default

The RDX is a great carpet and asphalt car! I have ran mine on carpet for three race weekends. It was faster the first time out than a car I had been running for 2 years. It has only gotten better.

Goto the RDX thread here and just read back a few pages at what the racers are saying about it.

Plus it won the ROAR MOD CARPET NATS last month. Can't be all that bad.

Look at the snowbirds results also.
__________________
AwesomatixUSA
eXpress Motorsports
imprsme is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2005, 10:37 PM   #4
Tech Elite
 
RCknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,273
Trader Rating: 5 (100%+)
Default I was leaning in the Pro4 direction for price range...but...

why is it not good for carpet racing? I thinking a BMI chassis.
RCknight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2005, 10:38 PM   #5
Tech Master
 
axel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NorCal
Posts: 1,226
Default

i have a bmi it works great for carpet major difference.
axel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2005, 10:34 PM   #6
Tech Regular
 
RayWarner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Illinois
Posts: 474
Send a message via AIM to RayWarner
Default

I have driven just about everything! My current favorite is the RDX. I purchased a FK05, built it, and put in on the shelf. The question comes down to if parts are available. I don't think you can order parts directly from Xray or HPI, but you can from Corally. You can call or send email to CorallyUSA they will send your stuff right out. Can't get better service than that!!! Also ck out the RDX thread, if you have a question ask. Setup? Just ask. Most times racers will get back to you in a few min. Ray
RayWarner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2005, 05:12 AM   #7
Tech Regular
 
BuddyB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: The Gate,Ohio
Posts: 348
Send a message via AIM to BuddyB
Default

Dont forget the JRXS, it was just released (finally) The car is very unique, take a look at the JRXS thread....
-Buddy
BuddyB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2005, 06:52 AM   #8
Tech Elite
 
CRASH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,715
Trader Rating: 26 (100%+)
Default Re: I was leaning in the Pro4 direction for price range...but...

Quote:
Originally posted by RCknight
why is it not good for carpet racing? I thinking a BMI chassis.
I had the BMI Pro4, even raced it up there at the Hobbyplex in Omaha. The car by the time you add the BMI chassis and all the option parts you need to make it work for carpet is just as expensive as an RDX or T1FK05. At least the RDX and T1FK05 come with dual diffs. Option part for PRO4.

The TC4 is very capable and so is the JRXS. I have a TC4 and it is a rocket ship get to try out the JRXS tomorrow.

Just some food for thought.

Later,
CRASH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2005, 07:22 AM   #9
Tech Master
 
koabich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Detroit Area
Posts: 1,359
Send a message via Yahoo to koabich
Default

Running on carpet with foams, you need to be as stiff as possible.

The X-Ray T1FK05 is a good car but you need to buy the thicker chassis and top deck...at least that's what all the guys at my track have nneded to do...so you need to spend an extra $100.-$150.00 right off the bat to make this car good enough for carpet.

Same issue with the Pro-4.

I have heard great things about the new Losi at my track...never seen one run though.

I have also run a TC4 and a 415 on carpet. Both are great bit both require a lot of money to get up to snuff.

I am currently running the Corally RDX Carpet spec. It is the most incredible car I have ever run. It comes with everything you will ever need and do not need to spend a dime on it to make it competitive. Of course I bought the 4mm chassis and lower roll center blocks...but those are not necessary at all. Right out of the box, this thing is incredible!

I would give the RDX a shot. You will not be dissapointed!
koabich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2005, 07:39 AM   #10
Tech Elite
 
ChrisP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Shelby Twp, MI
Posts: 2,047
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by koabich
Running on carpet with foams, you need to be as stiff as possible.

The X-Ray T1FK05 is a good car but you need to buy the thicker chassis and top deck...at least that's what all the guys at my track have nneded to do...so you need to spend an extra $100.-$150.00 right off the bat to make this car good enough for carpet.

Same issue with the Pro-4.

I have heard great things about the new Losi at my track...never seen one run though.

I have also run a TC4 and a 415 on carpet. Both are great bit both require a lot of money to get up to snuff.

I am currently running the Corally RDX Carpet spec. It is the most incredible car I have ever run. It comes with everything you will ever need and do not need to spend a dime on it to make it competitive. Of course I bought the 4mm chassis and lower roll center blocks...but those are not necessary at all. Right out of the box, this thing is incredible!

I would give the RDX a shot. You will not be dissapointed!
At my local track the track record holder has matched the fastest lap time in the Stock 1/12 class with his Stock FK05 (with no hopups)

You don't NEED to do anything to the FK05 to make it fast on carpet other than a front sway bar and springs. At that point the car will be a rocket and changes direction like a 1/12 scale. The Wide top deck is supposed to be an improvement according to people that have tried it.

The trap that many people fall into is buying every hopup because they are available, thinking that if it is available it MUST be necessary.

As far as not being able to buy parts directly from Xray or HPI, personally, I'd rather buy parts of the shelf at my local hobby shop. If your LHS doesnt' stock parts, then there are many online shops that can get parts out to you in a hurry. I don't see where buying direct from the Distributor is an improvement (actually....you CAN buy HPI parts direct from the distributor...same as buying direct from CorallyUSA...)

I thought about looking into the Corally with their renewed focus on the North American market, however they seem to fade in and out of this market and that kind of scared me off a bit.

Instead I went to Xray and the FK05 and I haven't looked back...the car has been incredible and i've had no issue with parts

I also find it funny that you didn't buy the FK05 because you felt that you would need to buy an extra chassis so you paid a premium for the RDX carpet spec...then upgraded the chassis???? It's your money..I just fail to see the logic...I'm not saying the RDX was a bad purchase..not at all..it's a nice looking ride...but you could have saved some coin by buying the regular car and a diff?
ChrisP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2005, 07:48 AM   #11
Tech Fanatic
 
RobS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Chatham, Ontario
Posts: 879
Default

You can make any car a good carpet car if you have a good setup on it. Personally I like the FK05, its just stupid fast out of the box.
__________________
Rob Say
Action Hobbies Kingsville
"In racing you never really lose. You either win, or learn."
RobS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2005, 09:09 AM   #12
Tech Elite
 
litespeed-dom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Beaverton, Oregon
Posts: 3,990
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Default

All new cars are going to be fast out of the box if you can get it setup. What gives that one car .2 or .3 or whatever sec quicker is really what capable racers are going after. And that .2 sec is what the hard arms, hard c-hubs, thick chassis will do. So what if you are an average carpet club racer that runs 10.2 vs a Toso or Ralph that can run 9.2 on the same track? Now, you'll be running 10 flat with those hopups. Those hopups aren't going to make you a Toso or Ralph, but it WILL make you faster, face it that's just a fact. If the car out of the box is "rocket", then why do all the team guys run the thick chassis, the wide top deck, the hard arms? Maybe for certain people, they can't tell the difference, but I'm sure along with many others, I would have loved the hard arms last year. If you are serious about your carpet car, you'll be serious about shaving that .2 sec off. .2 sec each lap for 5 mins, that could translate to 1/2 a lap. Is 1/2 lap important enough for you? Only you can answer that.

And I'm assuming everyone can drive clean here for 5 mins, just occasionally blowing a corner or two...

Dom
__________________
Team Kyosho America - Team Br00d Racing - Team R/C Plus - GQ Racing Tyres - Slapmaster Tools - FSX Racing
litespeed-dom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2005, 07:29 PM   #13
Tech Regular
 
RayWarner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Illinois
Posts: 474
Send a message via AIM to RayWarner
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by litespeed-dom
All new cars are going to be fast out of the box if you can get it setup. What gives that one car .2 or .3 or whatever sec quicker is really what capable racers are going after. And that .2 sec is what the hard arms, hard c-hubs, thick chassis will do. So what if you are an average carpet club racer that runs 10.2 vs a Toso or Ralph that can run 9.2 on the same track? Now, you'll be running 10 flat with those hopups. Those hopups aren't going to make you a Toso or Ralph, but it WILL make you faster, face it that's just a fact. If the car out of the box is "rocket", then why do all the team guys run the thick chassis, the wide top deck, the hard arms? Maybe for certain people, they can't tell the difference, but I'm sure along with many others, I would have loved the hard arms last year. If you are serious about your carpet car, you'll be serious about shaving that .2 sec off. .2 sec each lap for 5 mins, that could translate to 1/2 a lap. Is 1/2 lap important enough for you? Only you can answer that.

And I'm assuming everyone can drive clean here for 5 mins, just occasionally blowing a corner or two...

Dom


I'm with Dom on this issue. Any car "can be" great if you spend the time to make yorself better first. I have spent the money on the thicker chasis/ wide upper deck for my new Xray. I personally enjoy the RDX better. As far as getting your car from a LHS, do it! If you don't support your LHS then it will go out of business. I spent alot of time trying to get my local track to switch from just TC3 stuff, last year, to stocking Xray. And he did it and has been very happy with the addition. Now my bestfriend has asked him to add Corally. He has done it because there is a need for the car. I only suggested contacting CorallyUSA if you need the car/ parts and your dealer doesn't carry the parts. Get what you like, enjoy it, and lets have fun!!! Ray
RayWarner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2005, 07:36 PM   #14
Tech Champion
 
robk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Macho Business Donkey Wrestler
Posts: 7,588
Trader Rating: 22 (100%+)
Default

The pro4 is a good car, but the lack of a team driving the car on carpet regularly holds it back. Xray, Corally, Losi, AE, all focus a good part of their efforts on carpet races, and the results show.
__________________
A mutually re-enforcing cascade of failure

"Failior [sic] crowns enterprise." Robert Goddard

I-Lap Scoring Systems http://www.rclapcounter.com/
robk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2005, 07:51 PM   #15
alb
Tech Fanatic
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 785
Trader Rating: 19 (100%+)
Default

YGM!
alb is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
BMI Xray05 chassis for sale. RCknight R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 12 12-13-2005 09:06 PM
Like new 3mm BMI Xray05 chassis for sale. RCknight R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 7 12-07-2005 06:29 AM
Like new Xray05 for sale. RCknight R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 3 12-04-2005 05:53 AM
Anyone tried to mount JRX-S shocks on their Xray05... RCknight Electric On-Road 1 11-02-2005 09:10 PM
SELL OUT !!! LRP,GFX,XRAY05,75 AMP,PARTS DENNIS STORTI R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 41 06-22-2005 09:43 AM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 04:48 PM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net