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Originally Posted by Skiddins
(Post 11683991)
I don't see how a temporary asphalt track could possibly be affordable AND a world class facility.
This is temporary, no ? |
It would be pretty lame of ROAR to pass on hosting the Worlds. I think you would see more US participation than you are expecting. Some people want to race in and IFMAR event to have fun and see the best in the World compete.
However, to get the participation it would ideal to have both on a large (120x60) temporary carpet track. Indoors just makes everything a lot easier on the organizers, racers, etc. |
Originally Posted by RedBullFiXX
(Post 11684247)
Like Monaco for F1 racing
This is temporary, no ? If someone can afford to put in proper curbs etc then surely it should be a proper facility like Jackson, Tamiya Raceway etc.
Originally Posted by Jeff Brown
(Post 11684300)
It would be pretty lame of ROAR to pass on hosting the Worlds. I think you would see more US participation than you are expecting. Some people want to race in and IFMAR event to have fun and see the best in the World compete.
However, to get the participation it would ideal to have both on a large (120x60) temporary carpet track. Indoors just makes everything a lot easier on the organizers, racers, etc. Why would it be easier for organizers and racers. Skiddins |
When ISTC was a demo event it was run on carpet (the year Spashett won both 10th and 12th pan and the ISTC if memory serves correctly).
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Originally Posted by Skiddins
(Post 11684569)
It would be pretty lame to have the TC worlds run on carpet.
There is NO reason the TC Worlds shouldn't be held on carpet. IMHO, I think the Worlds should be 12th and TC carpet for this year, then 12th and TC asphalt for the next, then maintain that rotation for all future events. |
Originally Posted by trackdesigner71
(Post 11684739)
When ISTC was a demo event it was run on carpet (the year Spashett won both 10th and 12th pan and the ISTC if memory serves correctly).
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Originally Posted by CypressMidWest
(Post 11684784)
IMHO, I think the Worlds should be 12th and TC carpet for this year, then 12th and TC asphalt for the next, then maintain that rotation for all future events.
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Originally Posted by EAMotorsports
(Post 11681234)
Wouldnt it be awesome if The worlds were held say the last week of Sept at the Riveria in 2014 and then the following week the IIC took place at the same track. World Championships first then the normal people of the world get to race on the same venue and layout as the WC was decided on. That could be an attention getter!
EA
Originally Posted by Luke Hobson
(Post 11684049)
I had a good read of the rules last night and the ISTC (touring event) can be held on carpet too... Terrible idea though.
If 12th was to be on asphalt again then there would be a control tire... This is to stop the masami/yokomo domination since forever.. |
Originally Posted by Rick Hohwart
(Post 11684811)
I think the track would have to be quite a bit larger for an event of this size. Plus staff would have to be doubled. Set up in a ballroom in Vegas would get the most international attention but it would take quite a bit of planning and the willingness to accept a small profit for more work. The 1986 1/12 Worlds were held at the Tropicana Hotel indoors on carpet.
The last two Worlds on carpet didn't slow them down much. ;) EA |
Originally Posted by Skiddins
(Post 11684569)
It would be pretty lame to have the TC worlds run on carpet.
If it was a proper size track layout/venue, it could be a fantastic TC race. It would also take some of the emphasis off of the tire strategy/longevity... |
Originally Posted by CypressMidWest
(Post 11684784)
I respectfully disagree. The ETS races are fantastic, and they take place on carpet.
There is NO reason the TC Worlds shouldn't be held on carpet. IMHO, I think the Worlds should be 12th and TC carpet for this year, then 12th and TC asphalt for the next, then maintain that rotation for all future events. Why do the US drivers seem to have this thing about wanting to run World's TC's on carpet when you have some great outdoor tracks to choose from? |
I think world's should be a mixture of carpet and asphalt (2 days for each or so). That would show whos the best overal not just on asphalt.
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People tend to compare the IFMAR worlds with other events and that is not very fair.
There is no way to compare the ETS to an IFMAR event. The majority of the racers tend to claim how much more fun they have at ETS races and equivalent big scale events but that is perfectly logical. The atmosphere is friendly and a lot less tensed than that of IFMAR events because simply what is at stake is of a lot lower value than at an IFMAR event. Ask any manufacturer how they rate their titles and not a single one would ever rate an event win anywhere near the value of an IFMAR win. In this respect when IFMAR alocates their races they must consider that the track is suitable to provide level of racing equivalent to the event's status. For example, browse through the videos of all ETS carpet races and then watch through the 3 amain finals of the 2006, 2008 and 2012 titles. The carpet tracks are nice but they are just too small for this level of racing and I bet if you added all the overtaking moves made for the lead from all the carpet races run at a whole ETS season they would stil be less than all the lead passes made in the recent triple Amains of the 2012 IFMAR worlds. I think the US have some fantastic outdoor tracks and they are capable of running IFMAR events. In 2004 I went to the Kissimmee and the track, location and facilities were great. They just need to overcome the stigma that outdoor tracks are for nitro racing. With the current performance of electric open mod, any outdoor track is never too big for these little rockets. John JD RACING BLOG |
Originally Posted by Skiddins
(Post 11685024)
Two of the ETS races are on carpet, the winter races, then it's outside for the rest.
Why do the US drivers seem to have this thing about wanting to run World's TC's on carpet when you have some great outdoor tracks to choose from? |
I agree with Cypress on securing one venue so that this race can be hosted in the U.S. again..... It is the U.S. turn to host and hopfully it can be done.
Not sure why it has to be done in a ballroom vs securing a gymnasium similar to the ETS venues... |
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