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Old 01-28-2013, 11:01 AM   #166
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Realistically $300 for a dual wishbone, bell crank, inline, modern 1/12 is not that bad. Looking at what a Yokomo R12W WE goes for, this seems pretty good.

In the end it's all about the capabilities of the cars. My V-Dezign cars are some of the more expensive chassis around if you bought them new since the Euro to US monetary conversion they came to almost $450 per car USD all said and done. They use stock CRC front ends, and Associated links/pivot, so the money is in the carbon and aluminum pods. ( I got mine used for a fraction of that, but still). But these cars are easily one of the most efficient and capable cars at the track I run at. So if you pay more for a car, if it is better than the rest- that purchase is worth every penny.

If the car isn't any faster (faster being - easy to be fast. The Yokomo is incredibly capable, but all indications are that only a handful of people can get that speed out of them) than say - a $190 CRC (which I see as commodity RC cars right now) then I could see there being an issue.

Right now there seems to be a bit of a renaissance for 1/12 going on. Many new chassis/suspension designs, many new attempts to get more speed out of the cars. Where the last 5 - 10 years, there have been minimal advances or changes in 1/12 design concepts. All these changes, and designs are adding noise to the market, so new chassis and designs that don't have stand out performance are grouped together. I Do think this car is looking to be one of the most interesting cars in the last couple years, but it all comes down to racers and performance to justify price.

I know this may sound contrived or a bit simple - but the easiest way to prove the capability of a car, is to get it into the hands of someone who truly knows how to tune and run at a national level and see what they can do with it. It would be excellent to see this car (even a prototype) hit mod 1/12 at ROAR Nats, or if its in production, in stock classes.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:08 AM   #167
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With all that said, I am eager to place an order for one of these even not seeing the completed car yet.
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Old 01-28-2013, 01:18 PM   #168
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I am trying to make this a very easy car to set up and run. It is kind of a double edge sword though. Alot of adjustments can lead to tuning yourself into left field. I want to establish a good starting setup before I release the car so people can feel immediately the difference between this car and a strut car.

As for getting the car in the hands of top level drivers at big events, I dont see that happening any time soon. I dont go to the big races so I am not setting up cars like the other manufacturers can do. It is also somewhat of a click of friends for the most part. Maybe someday I will have the opportunity to hit some of the big races but for now, I have a business I need to run outside of RC and a family to take care of. I am not against going, just really have too many obligations outside of the industry to travel. I have the manufacturing under control though.
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:18 PM   #169
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It's Monday!!!! I'm just sayin...
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:00 PM   #170
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I am ready to order sight unseen at this point just cos it sounds interesting.

BTW its Tuesday down here, just sayin
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+1. I haven't bought a new, in the box 1/12TH kit since my Trinity Revolver 22J. I've bought used cars and bits and pieces of cars, but this might be the one to get me back to a full on new car. Fascinated.
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Old 01-29-2013, 05:21 AM   #172
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Thanks alot guys. Im glad there has been so much interest in the new car. I made the lower front arms and now it is on to the arm mounts. If you dont mind, I would like to get the mounts complete before posting a pic. It will give a better idea of the look they will have.
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:31 AM   #173
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Can it have the same style servo position as the yok r12c I really like it not sure of exact benefits or flaws but looks good!
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:04 AM   #174
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I did a prototype that had it mounted that way 2 years ago and it worked well also but an inline configuration will not allow for that. It will take the wheelbase way out of legal limits.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:11 AM   #175
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This is how I am running the electronics for testing. With a 1S speedo, the layout isnt as tight. My RX pack is pretty big
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Jason, lots of the 1s esc's are bigger than the tekin is. Like the hobby wing 1s 120a. Looking at the bolt holes and the rs I am curious if the 1s would even fit.
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:52 AM   #177
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Jason, lots of the 1s esc's are bigger than the tekin is. Like the hobby wing 1s 120a. Looking at the bolt holes and the rs I am curious if the 1s would even fit.
I was talking to Jason about that. He checked the dimensions and the HW 1S ESC, the big v2.1 and new v3.1 will fit fine.
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Yeah, without the RX pack I would have another 3/8 of an inch to work with. The larger 1S speedos are tight but will fit.
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Ahh good to know, I didn't see there was a gap from the Tekin to the battery. Thanks for checking!

This does look like it will be interesting if you have a large RX (older Futaba, current Sanwa RXs), and a large ESC to fit everything on the chassis, may be some stacking involved.

Will the servo space support most of the 1/12 servos like the 9650? (which is kinda portly compared to some of the very small servos that are out)
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:05 PM   #180
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I am actually moving the servo forward 1/4 inch as my servo is quite small. Everything should fit pretty good.
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