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Old 12-23-2012, 10:33 AM   #1
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hey guys i need help here identify my 416 which i got it from a trade, the guy i had it from said it was the original trf 416x, i just want to confirm it with your help guys here before investing money on the car as i want to race sedan class.. here are some pics of the car...
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Old 12-23-2012, 10:35 AM   #2
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:48 AM   #3
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:04 PM   #4
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really!!! i got ripped off, i traded my 1/10 summit for this, it was later when i found out there are clones trf 416, it was my first onroad car at that time, anyway thanks...
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:45 PM   #5
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Just curious how you know it's a clone?

To me the blue looks like the wrong shade of blue for Tamiya, and the shocks definitely don't look like TRF shocks.
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Old 12-23-2012, 01:00 PM   #6
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Just curious how you know it's a clone?

To me the blue looks like the wrong shade of blue for Tamiya, and the shocks definitely don't look like TRF shocks.
Well, there's the things you mentioned plus:
-surface finish
-rear drive axles
-chassis shape (most definately not 417x shape and it's even a little off from the original 416 chassis shape)
-rear diff
-battery holding system
-rear body mounts
-the whole front bumper assembly
-turnbuckles and ballends
-shock towers (mounting positions)
-screws (the original trf screws have some kind of shiny finish

And that's quiet much it
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who cares if its a clone. race it the way it is and if you break stuff, replace with tamiya parts.

though.... change those tires lol.
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Old 12-23-2012, 01:11 PM   #8
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Well, he should care if its a clone, especially if he traded a Summit for it! I'd be pissed if that happened to me.
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Well, he should care if its a clone, especially if he traded a Summit for it! I'd be pissed if that happened to me.
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I found a video of one of those things in motion
Having seen that I really wouldn't want to race this clone.

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ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.

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looking at the dampers and the ballcups i would say clone..

i had one of these 3 years ago, i replaced the diff internals, suspension and shocks to tamiya ditos and it was really nice (had those parts already, otherwise it would been a expensive kit)
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looking at the dampers and the ballcups i would say clone..

i had one of these 3 years ago, i replaced the diff internals, suspension and shocks to tamiya ditos and it was really nice (had those parts already, otherwise it would been a expensive kit)
do you think it is still worthy to buy genuine parts to replaced it one at a time??and would it be a direct fit?? going back on the video above mine is smoother than on the video, i have a tc6 which is about the same smoothness. i thought i had a great deal trading my new summit for it, really pissed me off..
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My 1st post to be of something negative, traded a guy my champ 416x for a 416we with smokem deck, just to find out today that the car is a clone, not a very happy chap now
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Biggest thing that screams clone is the shock towers not being counter sunk....

Also, if you do decide to run it, check the right rear out ball stud, looks bent...
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Traded this clone for a ta05 ifs with some blue bling
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All the components to hold in the battery: carbon retainer, posts, thumb screws, and carbon strap are all from an associated TC5, definitely not Tamiya
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