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Old 04-08-2005, 03:25 AM   #61
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BMW did buy rover rite?
It was Honda that bought Rover.
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Old 04-08-2005, 03:27 AM   #62
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BMW also manufactures its 3-Series in South Africa. So you can say that they are building their cars all around the world.
Toyota also manufactures cars in Thailand...

Man.. Toyota cars are crap..
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It was Honda that bought Rover.
my bad anyway thanks
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Toyota also manufactures cars in Thailand...

Man.. Toyota cars are crap..

off topic why are toyota car craps??
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off topic why are toyota car craps??
I was being sacarstic :P

Toyota are one of the best for reliability and resale value.


kkk back to topic

If TT decides to rebrand Associated... I wonder what are the possibilities... Thunder Associated, Tiger Association
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Old 04-08-2005, 03:35 AM   #66
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An interesting question should arise now once the merger takes place.... who would distribute the Associated brand once it changes hand? I am sure that many countries have a seperate distributor for both companies presently. Does this mean eliminating one of them? Surely wouldn't be a fair move !!
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wow will they rename??? when hitec buy multiplex they didnt rename rite. btw the multiplex servo still availaible rite.
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Old 04-08-2005, 03:39 AM   #68
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Yup I believe in the US, Associated will stay as it is.

However overseas where Associated is less known, we might have other brandnames for the same product.

TC4 = Thunder Car 4 = Tiger Car 4
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Old 04-08-2005, 04:14 AM   #69
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Rover has had a chequered history.

Honda had an engineering tie-in with them in the 80's... although Honda never owned Rover. I don't think Rover contributed much on the engineering side.

Then, BMW bought Rover. After a few years they realised the business was worthless (outdated products based on 80's Honda's being part of the problem...), either sold or kept the valuable brands (Mini, Land Rover), and sold the whole company for a tenner to the Phoenix group of executives.

At the time BMW were hated, and alleged to have run Rover down themselves.

The new owners came in, branded a lot of the range as MG (a classic sports marque), and promised lots of development.

5 years on, the Phoenix group have not replaced any of the major models - releasing only an obscure high performance sports car, and a rebranded Indian supermini (Tata Indica + Ģ3000 markup = CityRover).

What the Phoenix group have done is line their pension fund with millions of pounds while the company makes massive losses.

Now, the Shanghai Auto Corporation have pulled out of talks after realising the massive mess the companies finances are in. And thousands of jobs are once again at stake.

Seems that BMW had the correct valuation of Rover (Ģ10), and that all the government grants and gesturing have done is line the Phoenix executives pockets. And all the production line workers are facing redundancy again.

Good yarn... could make a movie!

Anyway, I'm not surprised TT are taking over AE. It's the new economy. China etc. is fast becoming the world's biggest economy, and will continue to grow until cost of living and welfare costs match the western world.
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I used to work at TT and known Aling Lai personally, way back when they started to make an entry (with their own brand) into the US market. They have come a long way since then, the success of the Raptor heli, acquired ACE, and now AE.

Do they have any ties with Team Magic? Not far away from each other physically.
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It's called globalisation. It's happening everywhere - all the time.

Name one major real car manufacturer that hasn't got ties with another in a different continent. Honda, Toyota, Chrysler, Ford. Hell Toyota's Formula 1 cars are made almost entirely in Germany, use Italian brakes and French tyres. And I can't think of a more Japanese company than Toyota. Mc Laren's MERCEDES engine is made by Ilmor in England and simply badged Mercedes. Renault's Formula 1 cars are made in England.

But staying with RC, is everything HPI made in the US? Is everything Yokomo made in Japan? Is everything Thunder Tigers made in the Far East? Is everything Orion made in Switzerland?

The answer to every one of those questions is NO.

Nothing will get any worse at AE or TT. A deal like that is just a financial deal designed to safeguard the financial interests of both companies, which can only make our hobby and products better in the long run.

I guess the only in-house made car is the Xray.
Letīs hope they can keep it up!
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AE's quality of late has trended more towards TT than towards XRay. TC4 was a huge dissapointment for me...This new XRay is definately the quality I've come to expect in a kit.

With new leadership maybe the situation will improve.
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Where's this news report? This is a rumor that has been around for over a year.

If AE is willing to sell out for 15M I'd crap my pants and offer to eat them. There's no way a 20+ Million a year company sells out for less than a year of business.

any chance of seeing that in the mag?
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any chance of seeing that in the mag?
kidding.
The brand name ( Associated Electrics ) have a quite high value in itself. The kits are not so important.
It can be worse, and it can be better. Iīts up to what TT want to do with it.
Working at Volvo, it is tough time being owned by Ford, who is leaking money as h-ll....
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