R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Like Tree2Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-27-2009, 06:52 AM   #10306
Tech Master
 
TwoTone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,002
Trader Rating: 12 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dragnse7en View Post
I guess you'd have to consider yourself lucky then. I'll choose to play it safe and keep mine on top of the servo, even though I could fit two of em where you have them.
If you had problems, may not be the receiver location.

Have you run the grounding wire for the none carbon tubs like Tamiya suggests?

http://www.sosidge.com/category/rc_cars/tamiya-ta05-r/
TwoTone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2009, 08:22 AM   #10307
Tech Elite
 
reenmachine's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Studio City, CA
Posts: 2,539
Trader Rating: 26 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mash13 View Post
Hey guys,

I'm running a 05 that was origionally a IFS but I removed the IFS and added another shock tower at the front. Luckily the kit came with everything needed to swap out that IFS crap!
This has dramatically improved the performance of the car, now she handles like a dream, and managed to race ok a few days ago.
ok well anyways i'm running 70/35 gearing but I really need to lower my FDR to about 3 to 3.5 So I will need to run a 45T pinion gear (for 3.5 FDR).

My question is, will a pinion this size fit? I dont have any to test out so was wondering if any of you guys have run anything similar?
Do you want to get rid of the "IFS crap"?
__________________
Pete Waydo
2010 Big Fat Turkey Race Mini Cooper AAA Main Champion
*** currently in stasis ***
reenmachine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2009, 10:00 AM   #10308
Suspended
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Northampton, MA
Posts: 273
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
If you had problems, may not be the receiver location.

Have you run the grounding wire for the none carbon tubs like Tamiya suggests?

http://www.sosidge.com/category/rc_cars/tamiya-ta05-r/
Should I be running one simply b/c its belt driven? Or b/c I might run it on carpet? Or both? I've been into RC since a while, but this is my 1st belt drive car.

That the link that you gave me shows a neat and yet worrisome situation I've never seen or heard of before. Then again I guess no one would since the body's covering the chassis.

My servo is acting really weird (super slow) so maybe I got zapped and didn't know it. I ran six packs outside with it and had no crashes. I'll opt for part# 53893 if this could be a problem - thx
__________________
Tamiya Frog from 1985 - Kyosho Outlaw Ultima ST - AE RC10T (cow hide LOL) - Tamiya M03-L Mini Cooper - Tamiya 1/24 Tamtech Posche 962C - Tamiya 1/24 Tamtech Ferrari Testarossa - Tamiya TA05-R - AE TC5FT
dragnse7en is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2009, 01:40 PM   #10309
Tech Master
 
TwoTone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,002
Trader Rating: 12 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dragnse7en View Post
Should I be running one simply b/c its belt driven? Or b/c I might run it on carpet? Or both? I've been into RC since a while, but this is my 1st belt drive car.

That the link that you gave me shows a neat and yet worrisome situation I've never seen or heard of before. Then again I guess no one would since the body's covering the chassis.

My servo is acting really weird (super slow) so maybe I got zapped and didn't know it. I ran six packs outside with it and had no crashes. I'll opt for part# 53893 if this could be a problem - thx
It's a static charge build up that Tamiya has admitted happens with the TA05 tub chassis. It can be corrected with the grounding strap or buying the hop up carbon re-enforced tub.

The link I gave had a link to the statement from Tamiya:
" running R/C car constantly charges and discharges static electricity caused by friction from pulley and belts/gears, etc.

The amount of static electricity that is built up changes according to conditions such as temperature, humidity, driving environment, part material, and chassis layout. Some R/C cars may experience mechanical trouble or out-of-control driving due to sudden discharge of static electricity.

We have discovered that the component layout of the TA05-R Chassis Kit (ITEM 49418) makes it relatively vulnerable to the scenario described above, if used with a metal-geared servo under certain conditions.

As a preventive measure, use of the TA05 Lightweight Carbon Lower Deck (ITEM 53893) is recommended. This carbon and fiberglass deck effectively dissipates static electricity generated during R/C car operation. "

They mention the 'R', but the layout is the same for none 'R' so I's assume the same problem effects all models using that tub chassis.

Last edited by TwoTone; 01-27-2009 at 02:51 PM.
TwoTone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2009, 02:25 PM   #10310
Tech Elite
 
macnkitty2002's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Montgomery, AL
Posts: 4,920
Trader Rating: 7 (100%+)
Default

run the grounding wire if you dont want to buy the carbon chassis.
__________________
Team Associated RC10B4.2
Losi Rock Rey
macnkitty2002 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2009, 02:55 PM   #10311
Suspended
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Northampton, MA
Posts: 273
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
It's a static charge build up that Tamiya has admitted happens with the TA05 tub chassis. It can be correct with the grounding strap or buying the hop up carbon re-enforced tub.

The link I gave had a link to the statement from Tamiya:
" running R/C car constantly charges and discharges static electricity caused by friction from pulley and belts/gears, etc.

The amount of static electricity that is built up changes according to conditions such as temperature, humidity, driving environment, part material, and chassis layout. Some R/C cars may experience mechanical trouble or out-of-control driving due to sudden discharge of static electricity.

We have discovered that the component layout of the TA05-R Chassis Kit (ITEM 49418) makes it relatively vulnerable to the scenario described above, if used with a metal-geared servo under certain conditions.

As a preventive measure, use of the TA05 Lightweight Carbon Lower Deck (ITEM 53893) is recommended. This carbon and fiberglass deck effectively dissipates static electricity generated during R/C car operation. "

They mention the 'R', but the layout is the same for none 'R' so I's assume the same problem effects all models using that tub chassis.
That sounds most likely what happened to my servo then. I was running a Futaba S3050 HT/MG/BB digital servo and it died on me. I really appreciate the info about this and will bookmark that link you gave me - thx
__________________
Tamiya Frog from 1985 - Kyosho Outlaw Ultima ST - AE RC10T (cow hide LOL) - Tamiya M03-L Mini Cooper - Tamiya 1/24 Tamtech Posche 962C - Tamiya 1/24 Tamtech Ferrari Testarossa - Tamiya TA05-R - AE TC5FT
dragnse7en is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2009, 11:30 PM   #10312
Tech Master
 
Rdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Maple Valley, WA
Posts: 1,621
Trader Rating: 83 (100%+)
Default

Hey guys, Im thinking about picking up a TA05 MS. I was wondering if anyone had one and what they can tell me about it. How much different in tuning is it from the tub version and how good it was. Any info would be great.
Rdog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2009, 03:03 AM   #10313
mok
Tech Master
 
mok's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Perth, Australia
Posts: 1,075
Trader Rating: 9 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to mok Send a message via Skype™ to mok
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rdog View Post
Hey guys, Im thinking about picking up a TA05 MS. I was wondering if anyone had one and what they can tell me about it. How much different in tuning is it from the tub version and how good it was. Any info would be great.
check the TA05MS thread here for discussion...
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...ya-ta05ms.html

I have raced both competitively and in my eyes the TA05MS wins hands down in terms of handling, responsiveness to tuning adjustments and many other things that running a carbon chassis with upper deck gives you

you have access to the same tuning options, but I believe the MS responds to adjustments in a more meaningful way..

in terms of how good it was... i raced modified last year against a field of TRF and Xray chassis and I ended up winning one leg of our championship and coming 3rd overall (even after missing out on points for the first leg of the champs!).. the Xrays carried better speed through twisty corners like chicanes etc and the rear motor mounted TRF chassis were a bit more stable and didnt seem to suffer as much rear traction loss as I did with the TA05MS...

BUT!! if its setup right, it will drive right..

i'd highly recommend the TA05MS with the TRF416WE setup thrown at it (including the SHORT lightweight lower arms).. today i raced/practiced against a couple other cars and had no issues with traction or handling...

FYI... this is with tyres that were old to start with, then got run some more, then chucked out, picked up by a mate and handed to me for street bashing tyres.. they are showing canvas around the edges and a couple of the tyres have torn the rubber on the sidewall...
thats how good the 416WE setup on the TA05MS goes, even with really bad condition tyres

but thats my view anyways, check the TA05MS thread for more...

-Mark
__________________
XRAY T3'2011 / TEKIN RS PRO / LRP X12 / HYPERION SWIFT G3 RACE PACKS / FUTABA S9551 / SPEKTRUM DX3R
www.epracer.com - www.precc.org.au - www.westcoastmodelrallyclub.asn.au - www.onroadrccarclubbunbury.org.au
mok is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2009, 05:51 AM   #10314
Tech Elite
 
joe of loath's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Bristol, England, United Kingdom
Posts: 4,857
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

hey, is the static problem as pronounced on tarmac? And would it affect analogue servos/receivers as badly as digital ones? Or will my constant crashing be enough to ground the car XD
__________________
HPI E-Firestorm - Tamiya TA05 racer (carbon chassis, 10.5 brushless etc) - LRP Blast S10 BX - Revo 2.5r truggy conversion (in progress)
joe of loath is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2009, 06:06 AM   #10315
Tech Master
 
cheehtae's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,470
Trader Rating: 15 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mok View Post
check the TA05MS thread here for discussion...
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...ya-ta05ms.html

I have raced both competitively and in my eyes the TA05MS wins hands down in terms of handling, responsiveness to tuning adjustments and many other things that running a carbon chassis with upper deck gives you

you have access to the same tuning options, but I believe the MS responds to adjustments in a more meaningful way..

in terms of how good it was... i raced modified last year against a field of TRF and Xray chassis and I ended up winning one leg of our championship and coming 3rd overall (even after missing out on points for the first leg of the champs!).. the Xrays carried better speed through twisty corners like chicanes etc and the rear motor mounted TRF chassis were a bit more stable and didnt seem to suffer as much rear traction loss as I did with the TA05MS...

BUT!! if its setup right, it will drive right..

i'd highly recommend the TA05MS with the TRF416WE setup thrown at it (including the SHORT lightweight lower arms).. today i raced/practiced against a couple other cars and had no issues with traction or handling...

FYI... this is with tyres that were old to start with, then got run some more, then chucked out, picked up by a mate and handed to me for street bashing tyres.. they are showing canvas around the edges and a couple of the tyres have torn the rubber on the sidewall...
thats how good the 416WE setup on the TA05MS goes, even with really bad condition tyres

but thats my view anyways, check the TA05MS thread for more...

-Mark
I have always wanted one, but I just can't afford one
cheehtae is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2009, 06:54 AM   #10316
mok
Tech Master
 
mok's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Perth, Australia
Posts: 1,075
Trader Rating: 9 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to mok Send a message via Skype™ to mok
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joe of loath View Post
hey, is the static problem as pronounced on tarmac? And would it affect analogue servos/receivers as badly as digital ones? Or will my constant crashing be enough to ground the car XD
my experiences would suggest digital servos arent as prone to glitching due to static (almost not at all) and on tarmac the problem almost does not exist...
this issue seems to be moreso with the stock tub chassis, rubber tyres and when using analogue radio/servo equipment
__________________
XRAY T3'2011 / TEKIN RS PRO / LRP X12 / HYPERION SWIFT G3 RACE PACKS / FUTABA S9551 / SPEKTRUM DX3R
www.epracer.com - www.precc.org.au - www.westcoastmodelrallyclub.asn.au - www.onroadrccarclubbunbury.org.au
mok is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2009, 11:55 AM   #10317
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 422
Default

just bought myself a ta05 car, didnt know that there was so many versions of the car! totally missed the R version (have been racing for many years but havent tried tamiya before)

got a regular kit that i was going to buy all the goodies for, but when reading here i`m not sure what to do really.. got some q`s:

1. what is the difference in handling between the std suspension and the reversed arm suspension? is it a must have for racing?

2. what would be the most economical, buy a brand new R version of the car or buy all the must have options to my existing std car?

I`m will be driving on a quite large asphalt track.

also: where can i find a store that has a ta05R in stock??? cant find it anywhere!

Last edited by Hatebreed; 02-01-2009 at 12:17 PM.
Hatebreed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2009, 01:24 PM   #10318
Tech Elite
 
reenmachine's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Studio City, CA
Posts: 2,539
Trader Rating: 26 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hatebreed View Post
just bought myself a ta05 car, didnt know that there was so many versions of the car! totally missed the R version (have been racing for many years but havent tried tamiya before)
Welcome to the cult!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hatebreed View Post
got a regular kit that i was going to buy all the goodies for, but when reading here i`m not sure what to do really.. got some q`s:

1. what is the difference in handling between the std suspension and the reversed arm suspension? is it a must have for racing?
The standard is really quite capable for stock-type club racing. The short lightweight reversible suspension is the supposedly a very functional upgrade. I'm just trying it for the first time as it came with my IFS-R and the car is dialed so far.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hatebreed View Post
2. what would be the most economical, buy a brand new R version of the car or buy all the must have options to my existing std car?
Just starting with an R model is cheaper by a very large margin. Standard TA05 ($150) plus all the R parts (~$250) = $400. TA05IFS-R=$250.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hatebreed View Post
I`m will be driving on a quite large asphalt track.

also: where can i find a store that has a ta05R in stock??? cant find it anywhere!
Speedtech (www.speedtechrc.com) usually has the IFS-R in stock. If they don't right now they will soon. They also carry most of the spares you'll eventually need at good prices for a USA store. Plus, they heavily support the racing scene out here in CA.

There is no more TA05R, although you can still find new kits on eBay. The platform's current R model is the TA05IFS-R, with the inboard front suspension.
__________________
Pete Waydo
2010 Big Fat Turkey Race Mini Cooper AAA Main Champion
*** currently in stasis ***
reenmachine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2009, 01:31 PM   #10319
Tech Champion
 
Core Creations's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Back in the booth
Posts: 5,749
Trader Rating: 95 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to Core Creations
Default

Like Reen said, the standard 05 is actually a VERY capable car. For club racing you need just a few hop-ups. I'd say TRF shocks and universals are the main ones to have.

The main difference I've noticed with the lightweight suspension is the overall reaction of the car. It seems to be more crisp in it's movements. The standard suspension creates more grip and is stronger. The lightweight is more responsive and little easier to break. It's not brittle by any means, but easier to break than the standard suspension.

I would also say the 05-IFS-R is the way to go for the next step. But I wouldn't rush to get one. Run the standard car...you'll be pleasantly suprised.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hatebreed View Post
just bought myself a ta05 car, didnt know that there was so many versions of the car! totally missed the R version (have been racing for many years but havent tried tamiya before)

got a regular kit that i was going to buy all the goodies for, but when reading here i`m not sure what to do really.. got some q`s:

1. what is the difference in handling between the std suspension and the reversed arm suspension? is it a must have for racing?

2. what would be the most economical, buy a brand new R version of the car or buy all the must have options to my existing std car?

I`m will be driving on a quite large asphalt track.

also: where can i find a store that has a ta05R in stock??? cant find it anywhere!
__________________
Core Creations paint thread

Mini Mafia Kansas Chapter - where the monster minis grow!
Core Creations is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2009, 01:34 PM   #10320
Tech Elite
 
reenmachine's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Studio City, CA
Posts: 2,539
Trader Rating: 26 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Core Creations View Post
Like Reen said, the standard 05 is actually a VERY capable car. For club racing you need just a few hop-ups. I'd say TRF shocks and universals are the main ones to have.
Exactly. All I ever did to my regular 05 was to add TRF shocks, front universals, and a spool. A buddy of mine drives it now, and routinely puts it in the middle of the RCGT A Main in a field of 30+ cars.
__________________
Pete Waydo
2010 Big Fat Turkey Race Mini Cooper AAA Main Champion
*** currently in stasis ***
reenmachine is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FS: Tamiya TA05-R (TA05) TCS Legal limbohz R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 5 06-05-2008 08:58 PM
New Tamiya TA05 R touring car/motor/esc! Frost99999 R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 3 08-07-2007 12:24 PM
FWD touring car/sedan hellbilly R/C Items: Wanted to Buy 6 01-12-2007 06:22 PM
Tamiya TA05 full race sedan, Tons of Hop Ups lbckevin R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 13 08-29-2006 03:05 PM
want to buy a touring/sedan car traxxasracer Minnesota and North/South Dakota Racing 7 09-21-2004 06:36 AM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 04:32 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net