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Old 12-10-2008, 07:09 PM   #10141
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so i have emailed both 3racing and the hobby store that sold me the chassis.
i am hoping that i can find a proper shaft that way
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Look at where I circled in your pic. I think you have the shaft in backwards.

See the large circular opening, thats where the 2nd bearing should be.

Now I'm guessing since I've never had one of these cars, but sure looks like how it should go.
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It's not backwards.... He's using the stock lay-shaft. The kit comes with a new shaft that isn't present in his build. It's longer and takes up all the space...
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:27 AM   #10144
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Here is where my confusion lies:

If you use the 37T pulleys and diff parts from the IFS, only 3 holes line with the metal plate. I don't think with all the other holes, the diff is meant to run on 3 balls. Unless the R uses a larger plate?

If I ran 18t/36t pulleys the white belts seem much too long. There was mention of a modification in the R manual, since I don't have the R I don't know what it is?
Yes, 37T pullies do run a larger plate. Also require 12 balls not 8.
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Here is where my confusion lies:

If you use the 37T pulleys and diff parts from the IFS, only 3 holes line with the metal plate. I don't think with all the other holes, the diff is meant to run on 3 balls. Unless the R uses a larger plate?

If I ran 18t/36t pulleys the white belts seem much too long. There was mention of a modification in the R manual, since I don't have the R I don't know what it is?

as sosidge said, the IFS-R uses larger diff plates and has 12 balls instead of 8 in the regular TA05. i'm not completely sure, but i think the 05 IFS-R uses the same 416 drivetrain. it's basically a 416 on a tub chassis lol.


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ok i've cross-checked my manual with a 416 manual on the net. they both use the same diff assy + 18t pulleys. and they also use the same suspension parts, aside from the arms. the IFS-R uses the newer short reversible arms, while the 416 uses the lightweight arms.
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It's not backwards.... He's using the stock lay-shaft. The kit comes with a new shaft that isn't present in his build. It's longer and takes up all the space...
Well good news!!

the hobbyshop that sold me the chassis is sending me the proper shaft parts!!
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Minami: The newest 416 World Edition now uses short arms as well. The suspension mounting blocks are different though (1C, 1C & 1XA, 1F)...
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Thanks for the info minami and sosidge, I ordered a ton of diff-balls and a few plates.

If I used the 36T pulleys and 18T center gear what mod has to be done to make it work? I read online that the instructions called for a mod to be able to use the white belts?

Thanks a bunch!
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so i got my the correct layshaft parts today..

can someone please direct me to either a illustration or diagram showing me the proper way to build the floating layshaft?

thank you guys!
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so i got my the correct layshaft parts today..

can someone please direct me to either a illustration or diagram showing me the proper way to build the floating layshaft?

thank you guys!
Not sure where to find specific instructions for your chassis, but the TA05MS has a very similar assembly and should help you.

Here's the TA05MS manual..
http://www.tamiyausa.com/pdf/manuals/42103ml.pdf

Page 4, Build Step # 2 shows the layshaft assembly being installed, I am guessing that its going to be very similar to that...

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so i got my the correct layshaft parts today..

can someone please direct me to either a illustration or diagram showing me the proper way to build the floating layshaft?

thank you guys!
3 Racing used to have their instructions posted on their website, but I couldn't seem to find them yesterday. Keep digging around. Otherwise you'll just have to wait for them to respond to your e-mail...
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The 416 steering blocks will fit into the 05R parts. May have to shim one side
This what I did on my 414
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Well.. they ALMOST work.

The problem is that the TA05-R uses the EVO axles with the 950 bearings -- they are too short to use with the 1050 bearings in the 416 steering blocks. So... I had to get the 416 axles too. Now it looks like the whole thing will drop right into the 05-R suspension .
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No Oval today??

I had forgot what it all took to make it work! Brain Fart!
Are you running tomorrow?
I will be up with my TA05's
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No Oval today??

I had forgot what it all took to make it work! Brain Fart!
Are you running tomorrow?
I will be up with my TA05's
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Yep -- I'll be there tomorrow. I was in California all week and didn't get back until last night. Had to get the Christmas tree and stuff today.
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Thanks for the info minami and sosidge, I ordered a ton of diff-balls and a few plates.

If I used the 36T pulleys and 18T center gear what mod has to be done to make it work? I read online that the instructions called for a mod to be able to use the white belts?

Thanks a bunch!
Simple mod just a bit of dremel work on the chassis to allow for the larger belt to clear without hitting anything.

Not a lot really needs to be taken off.
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