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Old 05-21-2007, 03:07 PM   #7591
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sorry. springs are the stock white springs that came with the R kit (along with the stock swaybars) I don't know exact droop settings (don't know how to measure them - guess I have to learn)- I don't know what the droop is with the kit setup but that's what it is now.

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Droop has a major effect on handling.
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Im thinking of getting a TA05R and was wondering how big of a pinion you can use. I plan on using the Novak 13.5ss motor and they like a bigger gear. Will there be enough room?
Getting SMALLER spur for the TA05R is not a problem at all, so 100T or smaller on TA05R is not a problem (with hugh pinion..)

I had the opposite problem by using 4.5R motor...the biggest I can use is 108 and I have to use 22T pinion...but at the end, realized 4.5R is just too fast for local track...
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sorry. springs are the stock white springs that came with the R kit (along with the stock swaybars) I don't know exact droop settings (don't know how to measure them - guess I have to learn)- I don't know what the droop is with the kit setup but that's what it is now.

Thanks again

still learning. . .

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Just some quick setup to get more steering...

(1) Laid down the front shock upper hole position 1 hole INWARD (to the center of the chassis...) - test the car.
(2) Stand up 1 hole outward @ the rear shock upper hole position, then test the car...
(3) add more droop...Front and rear
(4) Remove front sway bar.....test the car
(5) Add rear sway bar (if you don't have that before)test the car
(6) Harder spring @ rear
(7) Softer spring on front

There are TONS of things to do to get more steering...but try some of the above first...
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Old 05-21-2007, 04:19 PM   #7595
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If your using a decent tire like a CS27 or such the kit setup should not push. My car was about 90% there for both carpet and asphalt with the kit setup. Go through the car and make sure the droop is set per the instructions. If the rear has little or no droop the car will push like crazy.

The picture shows how droop is measured with a guage. The way I have learned to set droop is by checking the cars ride height, then lift one end of the car checking for when the tires just start to come off the surface...now recheck the ride height. Lets say the car was 5mm just sitting and now its 7mm with the tires just touching. Now you have a measurment. Your droop is 2mm over your ride height. This is also the time to make sure the droop is even side to side. I start about 1.5-2mm over ride height in the front and 2.5-3mm over in the rear. Repeat this for both the front and the back of the car. Make sure to have a very flat surface when doing this.
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Old 05-21-2007, 04:26 PM   #7596
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this is where I got so far indoors



It is realy dialed, but you got to use tyre additive.
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Old 05-21-2007, 07:02 PM   #7597
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What is the smallest Spur Gear will the TA05 can use??
or the largerest pinion?

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Old 05-21-2007, 07:16 PM   #7598
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What is the smallest Spur Gear will the TA05 can use??
or the largerest?
I would say that the 90t 64p spur that Core Creations and I are running right now is about as small as you'd want to go.
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I would say that the 90t 64p spur that Core Creations and I are running right now is about as small as you'd want to go.
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Well the deal is
I'll be running brushesless motor 13.5 soon and our track is 150X80 could be bigger and I need to get low or mid 4.00 final drive...
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Our track is about that big and I run a 5.00 ratio with the 13.5pro. Is your's wide open? Or is it mixed open/technical? I used to gear 4.6 final. But I found 5.0 more consistent and faster over all for me.
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Our track is about that big and I run a 5.00 ratio with the 13.5pro. Is your's wide open? Or is it mixed open/technical? I used to gear 4.6 final. But I found 5.0 more consistent and faster over all for me.
It's mixed ...what is your gearing set up....( spur and pinion size?)
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Old 05-22-2007, 02:04 AM   #7602
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Thanks for the help on setting up droop and the tips on setting the car up better!!!!

I guess I need to spend a lot more time making adjustments while I'm at the track!

Well, I think I need a droop gauge now too!

I'm running Sorex tires so they grip pretty well- I've been avoiding tire additive but I guess that's something else I need to look into also.

Thanks again!

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With a 13.5 and rubber tires right around 5.0 is where you want to be. Darkseid and I run the same gearing 90/41 and that's a final of 4.93. OUr track is about 125x80 and the car is still pulling at the end of the straight.
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Old 05-22-2007, 06:28 AM   #7604
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Anyone run the TA05 with mamba max 5700 BL system? What gear ratio should i use? 1st time using brushless system, so hope someone can give me a guide on the gear ratio.
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I'm running the Tamiya carbon tub chassis on my 05 at the moment, wondering if there is a weight reduction if you use one of the 3Racing/Penguin/Xenon carbon chassis instead?

Anyone?
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