R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Like Tree2Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-19-2007, 06:50 AM   #7201
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,131
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nexxus
So Tamiya are bringing out all the hop ups that 3 Racing made a year or so ago??

Nice bling, but from what I have seen, I doubt there'd be many real performance gains to be had.

That inboard suspension is intriguing though!

I also notice the MS has the provision for the MSXX Motor Air Duct!
Tamiya's carcon chassis looks narrower, compaired to all the other aftermarket brands.
Juan Aveytia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2007, 06:55 AM   #7202
Tech Addict
 
RaceBucks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Huntington Beach, Ca.
Posts: 512
Trader Rating: 6 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by over gear
is it just me?? are all the graphite tub chassis tweaked even in brand new condition? the rear right side of my chassis lifted up quite a bit.

how do you untweak a car that is tweaked to begin with?
I am baffled that Tamiya's quality control continues to let this go when it is obviously not right and is as noticable as it is. However, borrow a setup and tweek station and you can adjust out the effect. I since bought these, I see your in SoCal, I'm there Tue and 1/2 time Sat, introduce your self and we can adj your car.
__________________
"We face each other as God intended. Sportsman-like. No tricks, skill against skill alone." -Fezzik
RaceBucks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2007, 07:06 AM   #7203
Tech Master
 
buboy28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: manila,philippines
Posts: 1,601
Send a message via AIM to buboy28 Send a message via Yahoo to buboy28
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by trf_racer
53990 TA05 Aluminum Bulkhead will be released in June, selling for 6000yen.
is the Aluminum Bulkhead be compatible with the tub chassis or it's only for the graphite chassis
buboy28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2007, 09:21 AM   #7204
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 454
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by buboy28
is the Aluminum Bulkhead be compatible with the tub chassis or it's only for the graphite chassis
It's for plastic tub chassis. Why would they be for the TA05MS when it comes with it already....
trf_racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2007, 09:29 AM   #7205
Tech Champion
 
SpeedTech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 6,028
Trader Rating: 5 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sosidge
If this is any help to anyone, here is the screws you need to replace the Phillips on a TA05-R...

29x M38mm Round Head
8x M310mm Round Head
1x M312mm Round Head
19x M38mm Flat Head
14x M310mm Flat Head
6x M312mm Flat Head
1x M323mm Flat Head

Also on my blog - http://www.sosidge.com/2007/04/18/he...tamiya-ta05-r/
We can probably put this together in a Ti-Screw kit...minus the super long 23mm screw.

Steve Wang
__________________
>>>www.SpeedtechHobbies.com<<<
SpeedTech is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2007, 09:39 AM   #7206
Tech Elite
 
sosidge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Bristol, UK
Posts: 3,865
Default

M3x20mm will *just* fit in the place of the M3x23mm, you would need to use a little threadlock too to hold it. I have an M3x20mm in there for the time being.

M3x25mm or longer would also fit too (it is the screw for the rear of the motor mount)
sosidge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2007, 09:41 AM   #7207
Tech Champion
 
Core Creations's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Back in the booth
Posts: 5,749
Trader Rating: 95 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to Core Creations
Default

After racing sedans for over 10 years and having just about every tub chassis available through the years I can safely say...they are all tweaked! Every one, whether it's a TC3/4 Yok MR4, etc etc. There is no real way of pulling these things out of the mold and have them be 100% perfect. And you know why I don't care...becuase in 2 years of running this car I can not even in the slightest feel the slight tweak in the chassis...it flexes way to much for it to be an issue at all...This issue is truely mute!

I think a lot of people who have issues with cars turning harder to one side or the other, or spinning out in one direction are working with a poor setup...most likely with uneven droop setting etc.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RaceBucks
I am baffled that Tamiya's quality control continues to let this go when it is obviously not right and is as noticable as it is. However, borrow a setup and tweek station and you can adjust out the effect. I since bought these, I see your in SoCal, I'm there Tue and 1/2 time Sat, introduce your self and we can adj your car.
__________________
Core Creations paint thread

Mini Mafia Kansas Chapter - where the monster minis grow!
Core Creations is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2007, 09:47 AM   #7208
Tech Champion
 
Core Creations's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Back in the booth
Posts: 5,749
Trader Rating: 95 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to Core Creations
Default

It's the difference between a Kia Rio and a Honda Accord...quality is worth the $
Quote:
Originally Posted by nexxus
So Tamiya are bringing out all the hop ups that 3 Racing made a year or so ago??

Nice bling, but from what I have seen, I doubt there'd be many real performance gains to be had.

That inboard suspension is intriguing though!

I also notice the MS has the provision for the MSXX Motor Air Duct!
__________________
Core Creations paint thread

Mini Mafia Kansas Chapter - where the monster minis grow!
Core Creations is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2007, 10:10 AM   #7209
Tech Master
 
g12314's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Chicago, IL.
Posts: 1,282
Trader Rating: 6 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to g12314 Send a message via Yahoo to g12314
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeedTech
We can probably put this together in a Ti-Screw kit...minus the super long 23mm screw.

Steve Wang
Steve,

Please Do! My Visa card is ready and waiting .

Jimmy
__________________
"PREPARE TO QUALIFY"
g12314 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2007, 10:46 AM   #7210
TEM
Tech Regular
 
TEM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 253
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Core Creations
After racing sedans for over 10 years and having just about every tub chassis available through the years I can safely say...they are all tweaked! Every one, whether it's a TC3/4 Yok MR4, etc etc. There is no real way of pulling these things out of the mold and have them be 100% perfect. And you know why I don't care...becuase in 2 years of running this car I can not even in the slightest feel the slight tweak in the chassis...it flexes way to much for it to be an issue at all...This issue is truely mute!

I think a lot of people who have issues with cars turning harder to one side or the other, or spinning out in one direction are working with a poor setup...most likely with uneven droop setting etc.

Yeah! Most guys set the chassis to sit flat and think it's balanced; then they use setup blocks to set droop based on the chassis sitting flat and its WRONG! thats unless you have a perfectly flat chassis with perfectly balanced weight distribution with perfectly matched springs and I have not seen a car like that.

Balancing a chassis by weight L/R is a good idea; even close is good. After setting approx ride height; put it on a tweak station! Then you will see that the chassis don't sit flat L/R exactly. Setup station to set the camber, toe and throw(End points on steering). Then use the chassis lifting method to check droop! Car will handle same left and right this way.

A slightly warped chassis (doesn't sit flat on a flat board) is not a noticeable tweak. IF you physically twisted a chassis and one side twist easy and the other hard (like delaminated CF or loose bulkhead or top deck screws) then you got issues!...
TEM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2007, 12:45 PM   #7211
Regional Moderator
 
Darkseid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: At my computer, duh...
Posts: 9,033
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Default

My thing is that we've covered this. The people that were concerned before now know its not an issue. And the new people to the car who are concerned should trust that all the rest of us wouldn't keep using something if it were THAT bad. I know there are new people coming to the car all the time, but jezzz....talk about re-hashing a subject for about the 5 time.

If the chassis is too tweaked for someone, then get the graphite plate and believe all you want that its impervious to tweak. You'd be wrong of course, since not only are plate chassis just as capable of being tweaked, but it shows more in performance....but hey....its nice to believe in things.
__________________
TLR 22...Tamiya F104...
Darkseid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2007, 01:30 PM   #7212
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 454
Default

More pictures



trf_racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2007, 01:54 PM   #7213
Tech Champion
 
JayBee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 12TH-MAN COUNTRY
Posts: 6,813
Trader Rating: 31 (100%+)
Default

NICE!! Bring on the MS!!
__________________
R C 3 G R A F I X _ F U S I O N . G R A P H I X _ S E A T T L E - R/C - R A C E R S _ E M E R A L D C I T Y R C . C O M

A E - 12R5.2 _ S M - REV8 PRO
JayBee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2007, 03:20 PM   #7214
Tech Champion
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Chicago Illinois USA
Posts: 9,107
Trader Rating: 16 (100%+)
Send a message via ICQ to Solara Send a message via AIM to Solara
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nexus
Is there anyone who just sells this as a kit instead of piecing them all together?
The same place that shipped your car sells the full aluminum or titanium screw set (hex type) with SILVER or BLUE color........you should ask, but I know we will order 3 of those pretty soon...LOL.(you Tamiya crazy should tell me about their screws at the beginnning...)
Solara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2007, 03:39 PM   #7215
Tech Lord
 
Hebiki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Chino, CA
Posts: 12,919
Trader Rating: 26 (100%+)
Default

how the hell do you quality control how a molded chassis cools?

temperature controlled environment? that just increases the price. so much for a budget racer.

so like Darkseid said, adjust your set up. ive never had problems with the plastic or graphite tubs being tweaked. the traction at the tracks i run at are NOT high enough to even feel the difference. even at SIR (indoor high bite asphalt, which acts like carpet it has so much traction.), i couldnt tell the difference.

nice pix trf_racer. so when's the next scheduled release for the next batch of photos?
__________________
Hebiki Design Works
Custom R/C Vinyl Graphics & Apparel: Your gear, your way!
Web Design - Web Development - Logo Design - Graphic Design
www.facebook.com/HebikiDesignWorks
Hebiki is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FS: Tamiya TA05-R (TA05) TCS Legal limbohz R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 5 06-05-2008 08:58 PM
New Tamiya TA05 R touring car/motor/esc! Frost99999 R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 3 08-07-2007 12:24 PM
FWD touring car/sedan hellbilly R/C Items: Wanted to Buy 6 01-12-2007 06:22 PM
Tamiya TA05 full race sedan, Tons of Hop Ups lbckevin R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 13 08-29-2006 03:05 PM
want to buy a touring/sedan car traxxasracer Minnesota and North/South Dakota Racing 7 09-21-2004 06:36 AM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 10:53 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net