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Old 07-11-2006, 03:18 PM   #4606
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For being my first year running Spec in Memphis(TQ'd and 1stplace), I have to admit it's not all motor. I changed spec. tires around and ran inserts in the front and hard sponge in the back and my car was hooked up. As far as speed, it's all in keeping it off the walls and running a clean race and running your own race. There are tricks on the chassis like aluminum or titanium screws, keeping off any dead weight like the motor heatsink or the receiver platform. The main thing is make sure your drivetrain is as free as possible, I'm not saying clean it out after every run, just take a look at it and see if everything looks and feels good. Then you can have fun.
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Old 07-11-2006, 03:31 PM   #4607
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You're trying to tell me there's less disparity in 19T and Stock motors than Mabuchis? Uh, ok. If someone wants to spend their money to buy a batch of motors to find a few fast ones, how is that wrong? This isn't equal oppertunity racing where everyone has the same skill level or budget... Racing isn't supposed to be fair. There are haves and have nots. It's part of the game man. Also, batteries make a HUGE difference in the spec classes when compared to Stock and 19T. And don't get me wrong, I am not opposed to handouts...I'm just saying that the guys who are fast with their own motors will be fast with handouts too. And it's got nothing to do with magnet zappers, tweaking the timing or anything.
stop cheating gary... i think its the mayo that he breaks his motors in.

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Old 07-11-2006, 03:36 PM   #4608
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Dude, only thing Hellman's is good for man. it's got just the right lubricity for enhanced break in!

Why are you concentrating so hard looking at your monitor? I mean, the constant squinting has to be bad on your eyes
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Old 07-11-2006, 03:49 PM   #4609
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You can actually get a Mabuchi to run as good as a 19t, tell me what's the secret?

Wes, your Swift was hooked up also, it was alot of fun watching you and Masters going at it around the track.
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Old 07-11-2006, 03:56 PM   #4610
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You can actually get a Mabuchi to run as good as a 19t, tell me what's the secret?

Wes, your Swift was hooked up also, it was alot of fun watching you and Masters going at it around the track.
Where the heck did that come from? No one's claiming that a Mabuchi will even be as fast as a regular stock motor. But you can get a Mabuchi-equipped car to turn similar laptimes to some stock motor-equipped cars. I've turned times in GT3 trim that would qualify me in the A of both GT1 and GT2 in the same weekend. Does that mean I was cheating? No. It means I got my car to carry a ton of corner speed in the infield to compensate what I was giving up on the straights. Get over it man. In all likelihood, the person who beat you wasn't cheating. The TCS crew is very complete in their teching. They know what to look for. Besides, in the spec class, I would be much more concerned with people lightening their cars by milling out inside the halves or cutting the gears in half on a band saw to reduce rotating mass (in the case of a TL-01 or mini's) than I would be of someone cheating with a motor.

Oh, and you got me thinking...by your logic, the person who won GT2 in Laurel this past weekend had to be cheating...as he turned a faster time in the main than the winner of the GT1 A-Main...
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Old 07-11-2006, 04:04 PM   #4611
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OK OK Here's the deal I'm a 1998 past Nationals Champ that won with a hand out MABUCHI in front wheel drive (aka) GT2.... All your water dipping magnet zapping vodoo witchcraft will do no good if you can not drive a tight efficient line for 5 MINUTES without a mistake. I lived at the Tamiya track every Saturday for months on end till Nationals. I did nothing special to my motor
my car was dead even with the field of cars down the strait. The key is drum roll here PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE with a little luck on your side. You must be able to go fast hold a tight line with no mistakes.
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Old 07-11-2006, 04:16 PM   #4612
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OK OK Here's the deal I'm a 1998 past Nationals Champ that won with a hand out MABUCHI in front wheel drive (aka) GT2.... All your water dipping magnet zapping vodoo witchcraft will do no good if you can not drive a tight efficient line for 5 MINUTES without a mistake. I lived at the Tamiya track every Saturday for months on end till Nationals. I did nothing special to my motor
my car was dead even with the field of cars down the strait. The key is drum roll here PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE with a little luck on your side. You must be able to go fast hold a tight line with no mistakes.
mike allen? is that you?

they still wont believe you

anyways.. did you come out to La Mirada this past sunday? and are you going to run the past champs race at tamiya during Nationals? it'd be awesome to see two full heats of past champs duking it out!

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Old 07-11-2006, 04:25 PM   #4613
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IT'S ME....Yes I was at LaMirada last weekend running stock I was one of 50 running the all white body. LOL

Looking forward to running GT2 at the TCS and of course gettin spanked by Martin Crisp at Nationals Grude Match.

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You can actually get a Mabuchi to run as good as a 19t, tell me what's the secret?

Wes, your Swift was hooked up also, it was alot of fun watching you and Masters going at it around the track.
i did have a lot of fun in that one... thought i might have actually caught him, but not quite. 2nd was the best i have ever gotten in Mini, so ill take it!

i do agree with the good/clean lines discussion, tho.. tfor the 2005 TCS in Memphis, i ran GT3 for the first time, running my brand new TA05, (TA05 content here!) and i was amazed at how good a laptime can be had, but like Mike says, it leaves no room for mistakes. my motor that year was mediocre, to be sure, but i did manage to stay close to the frontrunners, and finish 3rd, i think? maybe 4th... dont remember now.

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Old 07-11-2006, 04:35 PM   #4615
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RCGARYK could not have said it better myself brotha.....

When you are running a Mabuchi motor with no bottom end you must be able to carry TONS of corner speed to keep up the momentum. When I ran front wheel drive at the Nationals if you did not keep up your corner speed the only thing you were doing was spinning your front wheels.
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Old 07-11-2006, 06:26 PM   #4616
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OK OK Here's the deal I'm a 1998 past Nationals Champ that won with a hand out MABUCHI in front wheel drive (aka) GT2.... All your water dipping magnet zapping vodoo witchcraft will do no good if you can not drive a tight efficient line for 5 MINUTES without a mistake. I lived at the Tamiya track every Saturday for months on end till Nationals. I did nothing special to my motor
my car was dead even with the field of cars down the strait. The key is drum roll here PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE with a little luck on your side. You must be able to go fast hold a tight line with no mistakes.
i think i remember that race. your car was dialed. that would be nice if you race the past champs at nationals.
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I think you guys must think I'm slow and always losing at my local club races and TCS. That is not the case. I was almost always in the A-Main for Spec. I know all the chassis tricks for the TL-01 and TT-01, and I'm a decent driver. You guys seem to be missing my point, which means you have gone to the trouble of finding the best motors and tweaking them. And I am certainly am a "have", meaning, if I wanted to, I could buy the best batteries, and find the best motors and get them zapped and tweaked and dyno'ed, etc et al. But Spec is suppose to be about everyone being equal and letting the driving do the talking, not the person with the deepest pockets. I also think it's weak that A LOT of racers sandbag in Spec just to win when they should have moved on to GT1 long ago. A kid with a new TT-01 or TL-01 kit fresh out of the box should have a chance to win too, but not with the sandbaggers. The best driver will win over any motor (within reason), but a great driver with a "miracle motor" that laps the entire field by two laps is just ridiculous.

Just my 2 cents. Agree or disagree.

Handout silver cans is the ONLY way to level the playing field. Period.

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Hi all, not dissing any of the arguments above, but I have a new point to raise.... I just finished my local TCS series about 2 weeks ago and was using the handout RZ23T motor. The field was very constant with their speeds on the straightaway, the difference was in cornering speeds as the fastest and the slowest guy only differs 0.5sec in lap times.

My question is... is there any way to help to increase the cornering speed of the car? I have learnt to drive conservatively, ie(not overshooting apexs etc etc..) but what is the best way to increase the cornering speed ? Chasis setup? driving adjustment? general setups?? Helps would be greatly appreciated.

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Not sure if you already got one but a front one way will help
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On the LiPos, I think the biggest problem I have with them is that there aren't many cars that can run them in their current configuration without a significant mod to the cars bulkhead. That's the main reason I haven't switched.
From what I have read on the Platinum thread, Orion may already be working on the fit issue for cars. On the other side of that, there are some companies which are working on alternate bulkheads that will fit the current LiPo packs.
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