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Old 05-30-2006, 08:12 PM   #4186
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I mesh my gears properly, im not that dumb I will put a silver can motor at my tao5, it will be my basis as starting point on gearings.
Nothing about being dumb. Just trying to isolate the problem.

gearing- questionable at 6.5
Motor new brushes, comm - ok
drivetrain free - ok
meshing correct - ok
So what's left? radio, esc and batts. But definitely there is something wrong if two TT01 with sport tuned motors were faster with a TAO5 with a 23turns. Try a different motor this saturday.
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Old 05-30-2006, 08:31 PM   #4187
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Does the Tao4's alluminum steering assembly will fit in my Toa5??? Also the CV axles of Tao4??
No and No. On the universals, TA04 is 39mm and TA05 regular suspension is 42mm. If you are refering to just the axles only, the TA04 and the "Kit" TA05 are the same axle.
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Old 05-30-2006, 09:16 PM   #4188
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No and No. On the universals, TA04 is 39mm and TA05 regular suspension is 42mm. If you are refering to just the axles only, the TA04 and the "Kit" TA05 are the same axle.
Hey kevin, the standard TA05 is 46mm universals 48mm if you use lightweight
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Old 05-30-2006, 10:19 PM   #4189
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Nothing about being dumb. Just trying to isolate the problem.

gearing- questionable at 6.5
Motor new brushes, comm - ok
drivetrain free - ok
meshing correct - ok
So what's left? radio, esc and batts. But definitely there is something wrong if two TT01 with sport tuned motors were faster with a TAO5 with a 23turns. Try a different motor this saturday.

It was my gears bro, (overgear). I will use silver can motor this saturday with the same spur and pinion. err......FASTER??
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Old 05-30-2006, 10:21 PM   #4190
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No and No. On the universals, TA04 is 39mm and TA05 regular suspension is 42mm. If you are refering to just the axles only, the TA04 and the "Kit" TA05 are the same axle.

Thanks Kev
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Old 05-31-2006, 07:56 AM   #4191
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I think one thing thats being overlooked in this gearing issue is the motors themselves. Just because one C2 can be run at 6.0 doesn't mean another one can. Just because one C2 runs great at 7.2 doesn't mean another one will do as well there. And thats with the same motors from the same company. When you start throwing in aftermarket "tuned" versions of those same motors, then the differences between one C2 and another C2 can become even more pronounced. And its the same for all motors mod, stock, or 19t.

I think its fine to have a decent starting point for the gear ratio, but after that, it just becomes one more thing for us to obsess over, like how many grams we are over weight.

I once asked one of our fastest local racers what he was geared at. He looked at me and said "I don't know...I just gear it till I notice that the speed isn't increasing anymore...and I'm still making 5mins...after that I don't worry about the exact numbers."

It took me a few years to let go of my habit induced obsession over why this person is geared at this...while I'm geared at that...and so on. But I no longer worry about it. I just watch the motor temp, and how it performs on the track. After that, the only time I really worry about the "numbers" is when someone else asked me about it, or when I'm taking down info on a set up sheet.

Besides...running with a motor guru like CIVIC91 will drive you nuts(and get you beat badly) if you try to gear at the exact same ratio as he does.
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Old 05-31-2006, 09:15 AM   #4192
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Guys,
I found this while browsing ebay. Seems that this guy has a lot of aftermarket option parts for the TA-05.
http://cgi.ebay.com/TTA180-Tech-Raci...QQcmdZViewItem

This particular thingy has 18T on the center pulley. Using this item it changes the TA-05 internal ratio from 2.25 to 2.00.

The question is, what will the effect gonna be??
Will it be good or bad??
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Old 05-31-2006, 09:16 AM   #4193
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Comtemplating running TCS with my TA05....what should I gear my silver can at?
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Comtemplating running TCS with my TA05....what should I gear my silver can at?
~5.0 +/-
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Guys,
I found this while browsing ebay. Seems that this guy has a lot of aftermarket option parts for the TA-05.
http://cgi.ebay.com/TTA180-Tech-Raci...QQcmdZViewItem

This particular thingy has 18T on the center pulley. Using this item it changes the TA-05 internal ratio from 2.25 to 2.00.

The question is, what will the effect gonna be??
Will it be good or bad??
It should make you faster.
If you were running Mabuchi motors it might be awesome! ! !
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Old 05-31-2006, 05:17 PM   #4196
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Guys,
I found this while browsing ebay. Seems that this guy has a lot of aftermarket option parts for the TA-05.
http://cgi.ebay.com/TTA180-Tech-Raci...QQcmdZViewItem

This particular thingy has 18T on the center pulley. Using this item it changes the TA-05 internal ratio from 2.25 to 2.00.

The question is, what will the effect gonna be??
Will it be good or bad??
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Sorry Guy but I have a dumb question. I have noticed that you all are talking about gearing but what in the heak do you mean when you say 5.0 -/+.
Is this a type of gear ratio ? If so could some on provide me with the specs for the gearing for a TA05 and how it works.

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Old 05-31-2006, 07:00 PM   #4198
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Diff pulley divided by the center pulley (internal drive ratio) = 2.25

Then divide your spur gear by your pinion: example 104/30 = 3.46

Now multiply these together and thats the final drive ratio...7.785
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Thanks you very much for the info.
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You can download an RC gear calculator from here which also might help

http://waits.net/public/rcgears/
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