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Old 02-28-2006, 07:23 AM   #3211
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what about the steering set that came with the hop-up kit, how is it compared to the stock and aluminum ones? does it have alot of slop? or was the slop minimized?
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Old 02-28-2006, 07:29 AM   #3212
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what about the steering set that came with the hop-up kit, how is it compared to the stock and aluminum ones? does it have alot of slop? or was the slop minimized?
The only slop I have in my stock setup is in the ball cups and not the assembly, but then I did ballrace it....
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The parts are identical to the standard pieces, so anything that was there before, will still be there. From what I can see, the slop comes in from the bellcranks(mainly the one with the steering arm) sliding up and down on the polls, so thats still there.

How do they solve that with the alloy steering set? Shims or something?
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Old 02-28-2006, 07:39 AM   #3214
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The parts are identical to the standard pieces, so anything that was there before, will still be there. From what I can see, the slop comes in from the bellcranks(mainly the one with the steering arm) sliding up and down on the polls, so thats still there.

How do they solve that with the alloy steering set? Shims or something?
yeah that slop, any fix?
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Old 02-28-2006, 07:56 AM   #3215
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yeah that slop, any fix?
Nahh...not from the new pieces. Like I said, they're just exact replicas only in graphite.

I used to fix this same problem on my old Yokomo MR4TC(s) by adding shims that had an internal diameter that was wide enough to fit over the polls, I had planned on doing that on this car, but never got around to it. Plus, with the shims, you can't get rid of all the slop, because if you do, the shims will likely contact the inner and outter portion of the upper bearing, or if you still use the bushing, they will bind against the bushing.

So all you can really do is use shims to get 99% of the slop out, but that still better than what it has in it now.
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Old 02-28-2006, 11:03 AM   #3217
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I replaced all my ball cups with the Low Friction units and it took a LOT of slop out of my car. You will see a big difference in the steering slop just by swapping them out. My car is much tighter now.

I noticed the belt tension also.
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Old 02-28-2006, 12:55 PM   #3218
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Okay, cheehtae's questions about fixing the slop in the steering got me on my work bench trying to solve it. Heres what I did.

All my slop was on the actual steering arm side of the bellcrank. So thats where I worked on.

I found a plastic shim that was the same inner and outer diameter(5x8mm) as our steering bushings/bearings. I found it where I usually find great fixes for stuff...in my old car parts box.

Anyway, like I said, the shim was the same dimensions at the bearings, but thats no good since all that would do is foul the bearing and cause binding. So I used a body reamer to ream the inner diameter to 6mm. This makes sure the inner bearing portion is free to spin properly. So now I had a 6x8mm shim. Next, the shim was a little too thick for what I needed, so I used sand paper to thin the thickness of the shim down to .5mm.

So now I have a shim thats 6x8x.5mm. Perfect! Now I took the shim and placed it under the upper bearing on the bellcrank. This raised the bearing up by .5mm and removed ALL the slop in the steering.

Quick recap...

-find a suitable shim(s). It has to be 8mm outer diameter to fit down in the bellcrank, but has to have an inner diameter that is at least 6mm so that the bearing can spin properly. As for the thickness, either sand it down to what you need or find one that fits with the amount of slop your steering has.
-place it under the upper bearing/bushing to raise it.
-test fit the front upper brace to make sure there is no binding

Like I said before, I did this only on the steering arm side of the bellcrank, but the same process should work on the other arm of the bellcrank if you have too much slop there. From what I saw though, you would need a thinner shim, as there isn't as much/if any, slop on this side of the bellcrank.

I would guess that all our cars will have the same amount of slop, but just to be sure, sand down the shim a little at a time until it gets rid of all the slop without binding.

Now, the only slop(not much at all) is in my ball cups, and I plan to replace those with Tamiya's low friction grey ones soon.

Good luck peoples...
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Just finished putting all my reinforced parts on the car. It's not as stiff as my 415 was, but it's damn stiff now. I agree with what Dark said, you'll need to loosen the belt a few clicks from where the stock chassis was. Seems a lot like on the 04 Pro when you put the tub on where it tightened the belt down.
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Old 02-28-2006, 07:52 PM   #3220
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Ok stupid question.... How are you supposed to adjust belt tension? turning it towards the center to tighten? Should you turn it equally on both sides (right and left) ? Although i have managed to tighten my belts...it gets me confused...
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Yes, move both sides equally. And yes, rotate to tighten or loosen as needed.
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Got my carbon lower deck today and the stiffners and the blue belts and I must say I only ordered these Thursday not bad from Japan. I got it all fitted to the car and concidering that I am running alu upper and lower bulkheads GP 3700 batterys the car weighs now 1510g which is great as our BRCA limit is 1500g So now I have taken quite a bit of extra weight of the car should help with the straight line speed just have to see how it reacts to the corners as I had my car dialled. I will be racing tomorrow night to find out. I am going to run my original setup from the other chassis just to see what changes need to be made.
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i plan on getting a ta05 next month with a brushless system and i cant seem to find ANY pics of one at all can u guys post sum up of ur ta05's plz
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:56 PM   #3225
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Exclamation Tweak issues!!

Now that everybody is getting the new lower deck, I wondering if anybody is having any issues with the chassis being a little bowed. As soon as I got my new chassis I layed it down on a flat surface and there appears to be a bow in it from left to right. If I push down on the upperleft corner of the chassis the right rear side comes up about 1 mm. It's not a lot but it's a little excessive for me, maybe I'm being a little too picky! I know when the TA04 chassis first came out they had a bow issue also. I checked my plastic chassis and it lifts maybe .5mm at the most! Anybody else have this on their chassis.

I'm going to go ahead and build the car and see if it straightens out a little!
Just "FYI".!!
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