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Old 01-31-2006, 06:07 AM   #2776
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I have to agree that this ta05 is a great car for the price. I have only added TRF shocks and it is competative with the X-ray's and Corally's. First day out I was able to make 4th in the A-main. Should have been 2nd, but my mistakes prevented that.

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I flipped twice in the main due to hitting corner dots. Cost me around 9 seconds sitting on my roof.
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Old 01-31-2006, 11:02 AM   #2777
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I just had to join the TA05 "luv-fest".......

For me, easily the most fun I've ever had with a RC car. As I get more time with it, the more impressed I am. I've only run it in stock so far and the Hop-ups are all good, but I agree with Darkseid---If you've got the bling, go for it, o/w just get the shocks and throw it down!!!.I don't think the Hop-ups add that much to the handling, so if you're slow with this car, it's most likely: 1) your mechanic or, 2) lack of HP.... Unbeatable for the price, and amazingly responsive to basic tuning, and excellent cornering speed---prolly due to the fore/aft balance. (You might need to add a little weight to the left side to counter the batts.)

In Stock, IMHO the chassis likes a little flex, so don't be too quick to stiffen it --- but that could be a problem for the belts in 19T or with foams. Still, there's much testing left to do.....but this car has lotsa potential and its cheeeep!!!

Sounds like a Tamiya commercial, but this car sure makes it fun to run in the "500 dollar club"....

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Old 01-31-2006, 11:54 AM   #2778
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Doc and Steve, are you guys running the LW suspension? The front or center one-ways? Universals? Titanium Turnbuckles? Sway bars? Right there's over $200 in parts. I'm not dissing the 05 one bit, as I like mine a lot too. But saying that you're running virtually box stock is a bit mis-leading. Good value? Definately, but to go faster with it you'll want some key additional parts. I think the only parts I had on my car at the Nats were the low friction belts, front/center one-ways, Universals, sways, the LW arms, and some suspension blocks recycled from an Evo 3. I only got about 1/2 a pack of practice thru the car before the first round of qualifying began and was sitting 6th after the first round. Just my $.02
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Old 01-31-2006, 03:00 PM   #2779
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Gary: Ask my brother, I've always been a little tight with bling.....(I want to retire early)

NOTE: --Your Mileage may vary--

LW SUSP-- Yes, won at TCS raffle

Universals- Yes, Axles from LW SUSP kit, Bones from my F201...

CENTER ONE-WAY - yes, but definately not required!! (HK, $19.00)

TRF SHOCKS- YEP, thanks again to TCS raffle.

CARBON SHOCK TOWERS- YES, (HK, $20.00 for both)

SUSP BLOCKS-- LOTS, most bought used at the track from overstocked 415 and EVO pilots.( $45)

WISH LIST (but not required), Aluminum steering, titanium turnbuckles, lo friction belts, sway bars, and all the new bling-bling carbon parts.(No doubt I will be adding to the car when I find the right price for some of this stuff!)


Again, IMO the only essential Hop-up are the shocks, although I say this w/o trying the kit shocks. Maybe I'll try them as a little "project", although the threaded shock bodies would be hard to give up!!!!

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btw, shipping costs from HK recently went into orbit!!!
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Old 01-31-2006, 05:00 PM   #2780
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Good value? Definately, but to go faster with it you'll want some key additional parts.
Not picking on you...


but consider this... Look at all the $380-$400+ cars out there and check their threads. The people in those threads are buying pretty much the same things TA05 owners are. Sway bar kits...different arms(either harder or softer)...upperdecks...lowerdecks...etc. So when you consider that everyone is adding the same thing to every car, then logic would state that if all cars were left in stock form, the TA05 would still be competitive.

And its still a debatable issue as to whether or not "to go faster" you actually have to add those "key additional parts".

Lets look at some of the parts I've seen people on here list as "must have"

-TRF shocks...why? The kit shocks work perfectly, and some $380 cars still come with composite shocks.
-Universals...why? The dogbones work perfectly, and amazingly enough...very quietly...and when the foam is used properly, never fall out.
-Sway bars...I grant you this...These are a "must have" tuning aid for pretty much all cars.
-Springs...same as above...a must have...but the same applies to all cars.
-Alloy parts...not even close...most of these alloy parts strengthen in one area, only to weaken another. Not to mention adding weight.
-Shock towers...maybe...the flex in the stock towers was disturbing, but I ran mine for a good while without noticing any problems.


Like I said, not picking on your point, just trying to let the MANY new comers to the TA05 see that in the end, this $130 car doesn't have to end up being just as much as the competition, just to compete.

Now, if...like most of us...people choose(not have to) to keep buying stuff for it until it does, then well hey...some fun things can't be helped.
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Old 01-31-2006, 05:49 PM   #2781
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Additional 48mm Swing Shaft For Assembly Universal Shaft Set are required for lightweight suspension. You can get them from ebay here.

http://cgi.ebay.com/53871-TAMIYA-TA0...QQcmdZViewItem
Tnx for the specific part number. Will check out if my lhs has it. Didn't know my tbo2 lw rev arms used 46mm till now when I tried to install it on my tao5.

Dongskie - Yeah still using the stock spur. I'll see if I can find some metric 0.6 module spurs I have some 0.6 pinions, dont want to go US standard 64 pitch yet. I did break in the drivetrain and its pretty loose now and more silent (and deadly?) than mo tbo2. But I saw marvi running his tao5 recently and the finest of dust makes it noisy when it got in the spur.
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Old 01-31-2006, 05:59 PM   #2782
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My next JGTC tao5, the ARTA Nsx coming this April. Just wished the tao5s came with finished body like tt01s

http://tamiya.com/japan/news/news0603/news1.htm
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Old 01-31-2006, 09:05 PM   #2783
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Thumbs up TA05 @ the TCS Nationals 2005

Gary,
I really think the misleading issue was that you had a definite weight advantage when those rubber tires came off the rims in the 1st corner last august @ TCS Nationals ???? just think of the unsprung weight advantage you had going into that 1st corner "I will never forget seeing that sight"

You know I am just busting on ya! don't take it personal.

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Old 02-01-2006, 12:26 AM   #2784
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Just a quick one here....

The screw that clamps the aluminum wheel hubs.... are they really that crappy??? They just got rounded so easily. Any suggestions? The plastic ones are ok only if they don't fall off. I remember my first Tamiya about 14 years ago when you push the wheel hub, it kinda locks down so it doesn't fall off.

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Old 02-01-2006, 12:36 AM   #2785
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Hi Guys,

Just want to post some more updated pics on the XR05 project (we are almost done and ready to hit the track soon)

On the upcoming Tamiya TA05 carbon nylon parts, those are set for release end of Feb. There are a few items being released middle of Feb., but most of what everyone wants (aka, carbon chassis) is set to release end of Feb., so should be available about 1 week after its released for us

Some of the other hop-ups that just recently been announced will be around early/mid March

We also received another shipment of Tamiya TA05 spare and hop-up parts along with more Xenon Racing TA05 graphite conversion kits

Steve Wang

p.s. I've been asked quite a few times what the price of the XR05 is...my default answer is always "too much!" The XR05 is a show case of TA05 hop-up possibilities, and it was never meant for resale unfortunately.
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Old 02-01-2006, 02:00 AM   #2786
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The screws are real tiny. I always be careful with them, and don't use too much force when tightening. If you can't repair them, then you could try putting some Tamiya Thread Lock on the pin before you put them in the outdrive, so it doesn't fall off everytime the hub is removed.
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Old 02-01-2006, 05:24 AM   #2787
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Yep, they strip out immediately with the crappy little L-wrench that comes with them. I use a .62 pinion wrench on them (used for 5-40 set screws) and that works fine. Just use pressure whent you tighten or loosen them...
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Old 02-01-2006, 07:45 AM   #2788
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Not picking on you...


but consider this... Look at all the $380-$400+ cars out there and check their threads. The people in those threads are buying pretty much the same things TA05 owners are. Sway bar kits...different arms(either harder or softer)...upperdecks...lowerdecks...etc. So when you consider that everyone is adding the same thing to every car, then logic would state that if all cars were left in stock form, the TA05 would still be competitive.

And its still a debatable issue as to whether or not "to go faster" you actually have to add those "key additional parts".

Lets look at some of the parts I've seen people on here list as "must have"

-TRF shocks...why? The kit shocks work perfectly, and some $380 cars still come with composite shocks.
-Universals...why? The dogbones work perfectly, and amazingly enough...very quietly...and when the foam is used properly, never fall out.
-Sway bars...I grant you this...These are a "must have" tuning aid for pretty much all cars.
-Springs...same as above...a must have...but the same applies to all cars.
-Alloy parts...not even close...most of these alloy parts strengthen in one area, only to weaken another. Not to mention adding weight.
-Shock towers...maybe...the flex in the stock towers was disturbing, but I ran mine for a good while without noticing any problems.


Like I said, not picking on your point, just trying to let the MANY new comers to the TA05 see that in the end, this $130 car doesn't have to end up being just as much as the competition, just to compete.

Now, if...like most of us...people choose(not have to) to keep buying stuff for it until it does, then well hey...some fun things can't be helped.
But also realize that I'm not dissing the car either. I like my 05 a lot. But to say that "I bought this car and am running it box stock, cleaning up at the local club races" IS mis-leading. Do you need all the hop-ups out there? Definately not. But there are about $200-$250 worth of additional parts that will really take this car to the next level.


Steve, all I can say is that I was gluing up 3 sets of tires that morning, got thru 2 out of the 3 before Marty needed his tire jig back and the wrong set got put on the car. It was a learning experience, I tell you that.
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Old 02-01-2006, 08:03 AM   #2789
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I think that the TA05 is a great car that we need at this time. Keep in mind that this car with a plastic tub chassis is pushing around a lot of $500.00 plus JRSX's, X-ray's, RDX and even 415MSXYZ's at the local track.

Keep in mind that all of these cars have their share of "bling" on them as well. In many cases pushing the real cost to over $750.00!!!!!!

Frankly I'm at a point in which I refuse to run around the track with a toy car that now can cost in excess of $1000.00 (chassis plus electronics). Hats off to Tamiya for offering this car.

The turn-out for on-road sedan has been dropping over the past year or so. I think that a large part of it revolves around the avarage racer's (me) perception of how much it costs to race at the front of the pack. The TA05 offers hope that you can make the "A" without having to take a second loan out on the house.

Go Tamiya!!!!
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So when are you going to break down and buy one already?
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