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Old 04-01-2005, 05:08 PM   #1
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Anyone have experience with battery zappers and which one is good for virgin cells?
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Anyone...need some advise.
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Old 04-01-2005, 11:14 PM   #3
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Please do a search...I believe there was a very informational thread reqaurding this question.
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Old 04-06-2005, 06:05 PM   #4
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Guys, I have done a search on this board and can't get a true answer.

Anyone have experience with the Integy or Apex Zappers for Virgin Cells. I've heard that the big matchers spend crazy bucks on a zapper. Wouldn't the Integy or Apex Zappers do the same by zapping at 85volts.

I am not about to try and build one nor do I want to spend "thousands" of dollars that apparently the big names have done.

Unless they all just say that and use a $200.00 Integy Zapper
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The concept is simple enough. Zap a cell with enough voltage to clear out the nasty crystals.

From what I've read, zappers for virgin cells are supposedly much different then your 140 dollar (at Horizon) zapper. Whether or not this is true, I don't know.

Your best bet is to search for other RC forums. If the thread you're looking for isn't here, I'm sure it's somewhere.
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The zappers that matchers use on brand new cells hit the cells with hundreds of volts. The consumer-based units like the Integy unit are designed for maintainence. They won't give you the same performance gain on new cells as what the big boys will.
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Voltage isn't the single thing to worry about. It's the amount of energy stored in the capacitor. The best zapper I've seen cost around $1000. I also did an experiment with an old Integy one and did lots of modifications and almost brought it up to the level of the $1000 machine. My cost was $400.

There are a few places that might give you some more help, but to be honest, good luck.

Out of the box stock zappers are ass for virgin cells. You have to go custom.


Hundreds of volts? ahahah

Go to the Big Jim forum, he will help out with some more numbers.
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Thanks Guys. Will try Big Jim!
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Just take what Big Jim says with a grain of salt. If I were you, talk with Danny @ SMC, Brad @ Hurricane, or Rick @ Peak.

What does a capacitor store? Voltage.
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Old 04-06-2005, 06:52 PM   #10
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Just checked out Big Jim's board and he says the intial zapper costs about a $1000...and he sells them!

Any thought on this. Is it legit?
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gc...

I bought a Turbomatcher several years ago from a company called Spyked Cells. They sold a lot of packs down in the Texas area, I guess they were around the size of Powerline or NEw Wave, not a huge company...

Anyway, When I bought the Turbomatcher, the guy threw in his zapper that he used to "spyke" his new cells before matching...

If you're who I think you are, you're welcome to borrow it and test or zap or whatever you like. It runs off AC wall current.

Let me know...

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gc2005, his zapper is very solid. Is it worth $1000? I imagine if you plan on doing cells seriously.

RC Driver Gary, voltage isn't its capacity.
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I didn't say it was. I don't want to get into an arguement on the dynamics of a capacitor. It stores voltage. The capacitance of the Cap determines how much and how how long it can store.
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It stores energy, not voltage. You said it stores voltage.

You CAN'T say voltage is all to worry about.
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Should have 50000uF capacitor, and voltage 90-110V
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