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Old 11-05-2012, 02:26 PM   #16
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Not entirely sure what you mean by "Sorex is barely a rubber tyre" but yes, I currently run Sorex both indoors and out. They are probably the best tyres I've used. But I have also run a variety of Sweep, Much-More, VTEC, Take-Off and RP tyres on both surfaces over the years. Some have been slower or less durable than others, but I have always managed to get a good handling car.
I think Syndr0me was just trying to say that Sorex's are a really good grippy tire.
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:30 PM   #17
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Yep, Nolan got it right. Those tires you're talking about have a lot more sidewall and grip than what we're using over here. It's usually Jaco Blue, Sweep Blue or Solaris Medium. They're a much less grippy tire with a very short sidewall and a lot more lateral movement.

It's a bit of a different experience. I'd be curious how your cars felt on the tracks you guys run on with one of those tires. They last quite a long time in club racing without falling off much, which is nice, but the grip characteristics are... not always that fun when you don't have great traction. It makes me miss foam sedan sometimes.
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Yep, Nolan got it right. Those tires you're talking about have a lot more sidewall and grip than what we're using over here. It's usually Jaco Blue, Sweep Blue or Solaris Medium. They're a much less grippy tire with a very short sidewall and a lot more lateral movement.

It's a bit of a different experience. I'd be curious how your cars felt on the tracks you guys run on with one of those tires. They last quite a long time in club racing without falling off much, which is nice, but the grip characteristics are... not always that fun when you don't have great traction. It makes me miss foam sedan sometimes.
Unfortunately for us, the UK's largest indoor permanent track closed recently, really was a shame as it was one place you could actually go and test different setups knowing what does what.

Whilst testing one day I decided on trying all tyres under the sun. Sweep, Solaris, nosram, Sorex and ride.

Sorex and ride are comfortably quicker on carpet than anything else, the solaris simply didnt work, sweep were 0.8 secs off.

The Sorex and ride were almost identical, ride carried far more corner speed bit Sorex changed direction far quicker.

I would agree with the above posts that you have to drive far more on the limit on carpet than on asphalt - making it generally harder
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Yep, Nolan got it right. Those tires you're talking about have a lot more sidewall and grip than what we're using over here. It's usually Jaco Blue, Sweep Blue or Solaris Medium. They're a much less grippy tire with a very short sidewall and a lot more lateral movement.

It's a bit of a different experience. I'd be curious how your cars felt on the tracks you guys run on with one of those tires. They last quite a long time in club racing without falling off much, which is nice, but the grip characteristics are... not always that fun when you don't have great traction. It makes me miss foam sedan sometimes.
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Unfortunately for us, the UK's largest indoor permanent track closed recently, really was a shame as it was one place you could actually go and test different setups knowing what does what.

Whilst testing one day I decided on trying all tyres under the sun. Sweep, Solaris, nosram, Sorex and ride.

Sorex and ride are comfortably quicker on carpet than anything else, the solaris simply didnt work, sweep were 0.8 secs off.

The Sorex and ride were almost identical, ride carried far more corner speed bit Sorex changed direction far quicker.

I would agree with the above posts that you have to drive far more on the limit on carpet than on asphalt - making it generally harder
I wonder if the Solaris and Jaco's etc aren't better suited to the more permanent US carpet tracks where carpet grip levels could well be higher than our temporary tracks (where a black racing line never appears)
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I wonder if the Solaris and Jaco's etc aren't better suited to the more permanent US carpet tracks where carpet grip levels could well be higher than our temporary tracks (where a black racing line never appears)
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I find the transition from Low bite carpet to high grip carpet far harder to adapt my driving style to than just carpet to tarmac...
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:28 AM   #22
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Adjust your ackermann to a slower steering rate. That will take some of the "twitchiness" out of your steering.
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There's so much that goes into carpet racing and the percise driving skill to excute the same exact line the entire race with no room for error, which is why asphalt racing is little more forgiving and the car can be off and still be functional!! I enjoy asphalt more because the size of the tracks and the speeds you are able to reach compared to very small tight indoor tracks..
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Lots to learn on both surfaces, specially when you own dedicated vehicles to both carpet and asphalt surfaces....
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