The Politics of R/C Racing
03-25-2005, 08:45 PM
#152
Originally posted by TeamButter
Funny story.....so this guy a John Tagliamonte (Tag for short) goes to the carpet nats..he has some custom vinyl made by Unreal Graphics (Cuffs)....Lookin' all pimp..except for one thing...His name had been changed from John Tag to Joh Fag as a prank..he unknowingly ran his car like this at the glorious, splendiforous 05'Carpet Nats.
The best part is that when his son was putting his car on the track..he looked up to his dad and said.."Daddy, what does Fag mean?"
LMFAO!!!!!
Funny story.....so this guy a John Tagliamonte (Tag for short) goes to the carpet nats..he has some custom vinyl made by Unreal Graphics (Cuffs)....Lookin' all pimp..except for one thing...His name had been changed from John Tag to Joh Fag as a prank..he unknowingly ran his car like this at the glorious, splendiforous 05'Carpet Nats.
The best part is that when his son was putting his car on the track..he looked up to his dad and said.."Daddy, what does Fag mean?"
LMFAO!!!!!
03-25-2005, 09:00 PM
#153
LMFAO too!!! 
03-25-2005, 09:30 PM
#155
Stock or AKA "amature, sportsman" level of our sport is out of control and a complete joke as ROAR and most definatly the mfg's are to blame. Stock should be 100% amature racers who do not recieve bonus money and/or a salary from any mfg in the r/c industry. You want to earn money for racing?? Work hard, win races and move up to the next level. Has everyone noticed that the SAME drivers are always in the mains here in the US whether it's stock or mod??? Has anyone noticed that as a country, the US has been taking a pounding from overseas drivers??? Why?? Because stock racers are content making $$ and being put in ads for a class that has turned into the exact oposite thing it was intended to be. No one is moving up or stepping up to the next level and let's face it, I'm 27 now and other than Lemieux and 1-2 other guys who ocasionally break into the mains, I'm still one of the youngest. I remember when Johnson and Baker were considered the old guys and they weren't even 30 yet!!!
19T should be the stepping stone to move up to Modified (AKA - Professional) and should be a viable part of every catagory we race. Drivers should be able to recieve 100% sponsorship at this level. At the same time, the "Pro" drivers should not be racing in the 19T classes as it only takes away from what the class is supposed to be, the stepping stone - not just another 5 minutes of track time that all the "Pro's" use to test and dial in more.
"Team" driving in the sportsman class is a joke. Where's the pride, focus and raw determination to run every lap to the limit and put everything you have out there to prove you are the best and worthy of the sponsorships and $$ that is recieved?? I see it as long gone until ROAR and the mfg's return Sportsman to it's proper place in the scope of things.....
I'm sure some will be upset (understatement) with my coments but inside, you all know that this is true. Our sanctioning body and the mfg's have let it get to this point so I can't place so much blame on the individuals but I do think it's time for guys to realize this and step up on their own.
Just my opnion though.... I could be wrong or just really over tired....
19T should be the stepping stone to move up to Modified (AKA - Professional) and should be a viable part of every catagory we race. Drivers should be able to recieve 100% sponsorship at this level. At the same time, the "Pro" drivers should not be racing in the 19T classes as it only takes away from what the class is supposed to be, the stepping stone - not just another 5 minutes of track time that all the "Pro's" use to test and dial in more.
"Team" driving in the sportsman class is a joke. Where's the pride, focus and raw determination to run every lap to the limit and put everything you have out there to prove you are the best and worthy of the sponsorships and $$ that is recieved?? I see it as long gone until ROAR and the mfg's return Sportsman to it's proper place in the scope of things.....
I'm sure some will be upset (understatement) with my coments but inside, you all know that this is true. Our sanctioning body and the mfg's have let it get to this point so I can't place so much blame on the individuals but I do think it's time for guys to realize this and step up on their own.
Just my opnion though.... I could be wrong or just really over tired....
03-25-2005, 09:36 PM
#156
Well excuse me Josh Cyrul...I am very happy running stock and making $55,000.00 a year. LMAO!!!
Been a Daddy all of what 3 days? Sleepless nights allready getting to ya!!
Congrats by the way to you and Angel....
Butter
Been a Daddy all of what 3 days? Sleepless nights allready getting to ya!!
Congrats by the way to you and Angel....
Butter
03-25-2005, 09:36 PM
#157
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Originally posted by Josh Cyrul
Stock or AKA "amature, sportsman" level of our sport is out of control and a complete joke as ROAR and most definatly the mfg's are to blame. Stock should be 100% amature racers who do not recieve bonus money and/or a salary from any mfg in the r/c industry. You want to earn money for racing?? Work hard, win races and move up to the next level. Has everyone noticed that the SAME drivers are always in the mains here in the US whether it's stock or mod??? Has anyone noticed that as a country, the US has been taking a pounding from overseas drivers??? Why?? Because stock racers are content making $$ and being put in ads for a class that has turned into the exact oposite thing it was intended to be. No one is moving up or stepping up to the next level and let's face it, I'm 27 now and other than Lemieux and 1-2 other guys who ocasionally break into the mains, I'm still one of the youngest. I remember when Johnson and Baker were considered the old guys and they weren't even 30 yet!!!
19T should be the stepping stone to move up to Modified (AKA - Professional) and should be a viable part of every catagory we race. Drivers should be able to recieve 100% sponsorship at this level. At the same time, the "Pro" drivers should not be racing in the 19T classes as it only takes away from what the class is supposed to be, the stepping stone - not just another 5 minutes of track time that all the "Pro's" use to test and dial in more.
"Team" driving in the sportsman class is a joke. Where's the pride, focus and raw determination to run every lap to the limit and put everything you have out there to prove you are the best and worthy of the sponsorships and $$ that is recieved?? I see it as long gone until ROAR and the mfg's return Sportsman to it's proper place in the scope of things.....
I'm sure some will be upset (understatement) with my coments but inside, you all know that this is true. Our sanctioning body and the mfg's have let it get to this point so I can't place so much blame on the individuals but I do think it's time for guys to realize this and step up on their own.
Just my opnion though.... I could be wrong or just really over tired....
Stock or AKA "amature, sportsman" level of our sport is out of control and a complete joke as ROAR and most definatly the mfg's are to blame. Stock should be 100% amature racers who do not recieve bonus money and/or a salary from any mfg in the r/c industry. You want to earn money for racing?? Work hard, win races and move up to the next level. Has everyone noticed that the SAME drivers are always in the mains here in the US whether it's stock or mod??? Has anyone noticed that as a country, the US has been taking a pounding from overseas drivers??? Why?? Because stock racers are content making $$ and being put in ads for a class that has turned into the exact oposite thing it was intended to be. No one is moving up or stepping up to the next level and let's face it, I'm 27 now and other than Lemieux and 1-2 other guys who ocasionally break into the mains, I'm still one of the youngest. I remember when Johnson and Baker were considered the old guys and they weren't even 30 yet!!!
19T should be the stepping stone to move up to Modified (AKA - Professional) and should be a viable part of every catagory we race. Drivers should be able to recieve 100% sponsorship at this level. At the same time, the "Pro" drivers should not be racing in the 19T classes as it only takes away from what the class is supposed to be, the stepping stone - not just another 5 minutes of track time that all the "Pro's" use to test and dial in more.
"Team" driving in the sportsman class is a joke. Where's the pride, focus and raw determination to run every lap to the limit and put everything you have out there to prove you are the best and worthy of the sponsorships and $$ that is recieved?? I see it as long gone until ROAR and the mfg's return Sportsman to it's proper place in the scope of things.....
I'm sure some will be upset (understatement) with my coments but inside, you all know that this is true. Our sanctioning body and the mfg's have let it get to this point so I can't place so much blame on the individuals but I do think it's time for guys to realize this and step up on their own.
Just my opnion though.... I could be wrong or just really over tired....
Josh for ROAR Prez...........
03-25-2005, 09:50 PM
#158
Josh makes me feel better for getting my ass kicked in mod, lol.
03-25-2005, 09:56 PM
#160
Well said,But heres the problem,(this is just an opinion)At most tracks 19 and stock are the biggest classes,In my area almost no one runs mod,maybe 2 or 3,Thats it.The hobby shops sell alot of 19 winds and stock motors.That makes it hard for alot of companys to ignore 19 and stock..
03-26-2005, 08:01 AM
#162
hey josh i know what you are saying and i will be more then happy to move up and not jump right back into stock after getting my a$$ kicked for a year or two you are right if you look at the results for the last 10 so called big races their are about 15 to 20 names that jump aroung the top ten in both classes and 5 or so are always in the top 10 (except you and paulie for the last three races but next year will be different) i talked to some of the top stock drivers and some of us are moving up next year and alot will probally alway stay in stock i for one am done in stock i will club race 19 turn (track does not get alot of mod its me and one other person) but race mod in big races so be ready for the wrath next year
bye the way i am comming for you in 1/12 mod oval at the birds next year so it might be me saying move that shi$bucket to you
also both me and carissa wish you and angle the best of luck on the new born
bye the way i am comming for you in 1/12 mod oval at the birds next year so it might be me saying move that shi$bucket to you
also both me and carissa wish you and angle the best of luck on the new born
03-26-2005, 02:49 PM
#163
Great Post Josh, and it took a respected pro to make that comment for the guys to repsond positively. If a schmoe like me makes that comment, It just starts a barrage of posts that basically say "Step Up" to beat the fast guys in stock. Guys like Smyka, Cuffs, Lopez... like it or not, are the future National Champs in mod, but if they never step up, we will have a bunch of geezers trying to beat the young hotshoes from the rest of the world. After the Worlds, thier was alot of comments on why the USA totally got owned, well, maybe with some new talent coming up to mod, it will start to push the best in the USA to be faster. Don't get me wrong, you guys that pretty much rule mod racing in the US are all phenominal wheels, that , most of us will never be as fast as.
Personally, I think the stock/mod thing comes down to integrity, and the lure of winning/sponsorships has helped to lower the integrity of some people that really should just step up. Like Josh said, the Companies/ROAR really have to help to get this ship going back in the right direction.
Personally, I think the stock/mod thing comes down to integrity, and the lure of winning/sponsorships has helped to lower the integrity of some people that really should just step up. Like Josh said, the Companies/ROAR really have to help to get this ship going back in the right direction.
03-26-2005, 03:31 PM
#164
Originally posted by smyka
hey josh i know what you are saying and i will be more then happy to move up and not jump right back into stock after getting my a$$ kicked for a year or two you are right if you look at the results for the last 10 so called big races their are about 15 to 20 names that jump aroung the top ten in both classes and 5 or so are always in the top 10 (except you and paulie for the last three races but next year will be different) i talked to some of the top stock drivers and some of us are moving up next year and alot will probally alway stay in stock i for one am done in stock i will club race 19 turn (track does not get alot of mod its me and one other person) but race mod in big races so be ready for the wrath next year
hey josh i know what you are saying and i will be more then happy to move up and not jump right back into stock after getting my a$$ kicked for a year or two you are right if you look at the results for the last 10 so called big races their are about 15 to 20 names that jump aroung the top ten in both classes and 5 or so are always in the top 10 (except you and paulie for the last three races but next year will be different) i talked to some of the top stock drivers and some of us are moving up next year and alot will probally alway stay in stock i for one am done in stock i will club race 19 turn (track does not get alot of mod its me and one other person) but race mod in big races so be ready for the wrath next year
03-26-2005, 05:48 PM
#165
Tech Regular
Originally posted by Pro4Capece
I'm glad that you guys realize where you stand. And I think everyone knows what I was trying to say in my earlier post.
I'm glad that you guys realize where you stand. And I think everyone knows what I was trying to say in my earlier post.
and also get the $ where you can. thats about it. later Toso
