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Old 10-08-2012, 08:24 AM   #1
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When you have 2 second slower per lap than the other, what priorities would you do to keep up with the other?
A. Driving skill
B. Tyre
C. Esc setting
D. chassis setting
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When you have 2 second slower per lap than the other, what priorities would you do to keep up with the other?
A. Driving skill
B. Tyre
C. Esc setting
D. chassis setting
What class and car? I assume you are running a fairly open class otherwise tires would be spec and esc would be blinky.

While driving skill is king, you need the other bits working correctly in order to improve that skill. Things like double digit camber/toe settings, tweaked chassis, unequal shock fluids (left/right) will make any amount of driving skill a mute point. That being said, if tires are not spec, they are the most important piece of tuning available. Second would be chassis tuning. With the car handling well, you can learn to drive the track better. ESC/gearing is required to get that 2 seconds down, but it is the easiest thing to fix, and none of the other pieces require it. If you can drive an underpowered car well, you should be able to drive a faster one with similar abilities...only faster.
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:10 AM   #3
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:11 AM   #4
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Firstly:
A. Driving skill

When you're only half a second then worry about:

B. Tyre
C. Esc setting
D. chassis setting

Making sure your car drives straight helps also.
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Skill and setup kind of go hand in hand.....

I'm normally a full lap off the pace in a 5 min qualifier...

I have handed my car to the local fast guy and asked him to drive a few laps. He said my car was nearly undriveable.... and his lap times were not that much faster than mine were.

I spent the next week tearing my car apart and building it back up, making sure I put it together with the box stock settings, brought it back to the track, and both of us pulled faster laps.

I used to have the philosophy that no amount of setup changes could improve my driving as much as more track time could.....but there is a point where your setup is making your car undriveable. I guess, if you are able to pull consistent laps without crashing, it's time to look at setup a little bit....
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I would say first, driving skill. If you have the same level of skill as a fast guy, you will know it. A good way to evaluate your skill level is to see the difference between you mean time, and your best time over a 5 min run. If it's over 0.4s, then what you need to work on is consistency first!! Then the speed will start coming naturally.

Next I would go with tyres. Good tyres are more then half of the setup.
Onde you have good tyres, you should start working on setup, and getting the car better for your driving style.

Finally, I would look into ESC setup/motor selection.

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It usually always comes down to skill when your talking about seconds and not tenths of a second...

The best way to know...? Hand you car to a driver who is 2 seconds faster than you and see if having him drive your car makes up those 2 seconds. If it does...then it's all skill. If it does not, then ask for advice on the other three items.
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Man--- that is one ugly --- Pit Bull---- in that avatar?!!!!!!!!

Get to the track Steve!

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You can ask other driver(who is faster by 2sec) to drive your car. Then you'll find the problem.
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When you have 2 second slower per lap than the other, what priorities would you do to keep up with the other?
A. Driving skill
B. Tyre
C. Esc setting
D. chassis setting
How about e) letting the faster guy though
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All of the above... and even more. If your car is setup well, the vast majority of those 2 seconds will be drive line / corner speed.
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I would start with basic run over the car checking geometry, rebuild shocks and check the diffs.

Bolt on a great set of tyres and keep using fresh tyres whilst you work on the driver skill.
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I will disagree with everyone and go with D. Assuming you are new to on-road, hence the question.

Starting with a good setup for that car, you will develop better driving habits and actually learn something. It's also a mental "check" to know that another driver with more experience setup your car to the best it can perform so that was you can concentrate on your driving skill. Here is how.

1>Find THE fast guy at your track
2>Make friends with him
3>Ask him to setup your car
4>Bribe with beer.

Edit:Number 4....check ID if in question lol
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Practice ,,, set up and tires are your best bet ..Driving the correct driving line and trusting your driving skills at high speed ... anybody can drive a slow car fast .. butt how fast can you drive a fast car ...slow ...
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