Xray T4 '13

Old 06-15-2013, 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JOE SI View Post
Yea same thing, straightening the shock.
Don't know what it actually does, but I'm going to say it makes the suspension more efficient
i tried to work out why it works,and all i could come up with is it stops the shock from binding,i took the shock off the car and put sideways pressure to the shaft and the shock felt as though it was binding,so with the shock more vertical there is less binding ,so a smoother shock action is the result
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Old 06-15-2013, 06:12 AM
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Does it give more rear traction? I'd guess it's all about arm leverage vs. The shaft similar to angling the shock on the tower.
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anyone know what brushless motor (gold in color) Martin Hudy is using at ETS?
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anyone know what brushless motor (gold in color) Martin Hudy is using at ETS?
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Originally Posted by Craig W View Post
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anyone got experience with it?
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Originally Posted by TT_Vert View Post
Does it give more rear traction? I'd guess it's all about arm leverage vs. The shaft similar to angling the shock on the tower.
i dont believe it does,just smoothes out the transition
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Old 06-15-2013, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by chasingthepack View Post
i dont believe it does,just smoothes out the transition
How would you say it smooths it out? And what transition are you referring to? Side to side or front to back?

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Originally Posted by TT_Vert View Post
How would you say it smooths it out? And what transition are you referring to? Side to side or front to back?

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i would say all as it just makes the shock action smoother with out any binding,thats imho though
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Xray states it as a tuning option so I'm trying to figure out the details. I don't think they'd angle the shocks the way they do if the shocks aren't smooth at that angle. They are a bit ambiguous when they state "move the front shock forward and rear rearward". They state what the effect is (Oddly it states the exact same thing for front/rear that you loose corner entry steering and it's more stable doing either) but I just don't know If you are supposed to equally space the top/bottom or offset more on top or bottom.

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Old 06-15-2013, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TT_Vert View Post
Xray states it as a tuning option so I'm trying to figure out the details. I don't think they'd angle the shocks the way they do if the shocks aren't smooth at that angle. They are a bit ambiguous when they state "move the front shock forward and rear rearward". They state what the effect is (Oddly it states the exact same thing for front/rear that you loose corner entry steering and it's more stable doing either) but I just don't know If you are supposed to equally space the top/bottom or offset more on top or bottom.

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i have a 3mm shim front top and a 2mm shim rear bottom no others,it also depends on your wheel base and where you place the shims
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Originally Posted by chasingthepack View Post
i have a 3mm shim front top and a 2mm shim rear bottom no others,it also depends on your wheel base and where you place the shims
Right, so a definitive Washer here, this result, washer there, that result would benefit us all. I'm not good enough to discern such a small change to distinguish if it has helped but my curiosity has gotten the best of me here.


Something like
washer top front: result
Washer bottom front : result
Washer top rear : result
Washer bottom rear: result

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Old 06-15-2013, 03:13 PM
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This was posted a while ago by Alex Hagberg on the Xray Forum:

"When you space the shocks out equally both on the top and bottom, this somehow makes more cornerspeed, which ist noticeable especially in highspeed corners. The car will stop less. Actually I think the shimming will take away a bit of traction from that end of the car. In the front I use 4mm shims from the top mounting and 2 at the bottom to have the shock mounted in a vertical line. In the rear I use 2mm at the top and bottom."

I recall he stated in another tread that with 3mm on top he will use 1 mm on the bottom and with 2 mm on the top he uses non on the bottom (Thats all in the front).
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Originally Posted by nevergiveup View Post
This was posted a while ago by Alex Hagberg on the Xray Forum:

"When you space the shocks out equally both on the top and bottom, this somehow makes more cornerspeed, which ist noticeable especially in highspeed corners. The car will stop less. Actually I think the shimming will take away a bit of traction from that end of the car. In the front I use 4mm shims from the top mounting and 2 at the bottom to have the shock mounted in a vertical line. In the rear I use 2mm at the top and bottom."

I recall he stated in another tread that with 3mm on top he will use 1 mm on the bottom and with 2 mm on the top he uses non on the bottom (Thats all in the front).
That's much more informative thank you. I know I read it somewhere I just couldn't find it. I'll have to look through the xray forum a bit, maybe that's where I ended up one day when I googled something about the t4. What it appears is he likes to keep the shock vertical from a cross sectional view. And it appears it takes 2 top washers up front to do that w/ 0 at the bottom and in back it is vertical w/ no shims.

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Old 06-16-2013, 09:10 AM
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well at the end of the day i was quite gutted,first run this morning and im 1 second off my pb,second run i im on for beating my pb and i put the wrong battery in and dumped at 12 laps,then the heavens opened and ruined any chance of going faster,the car itself has come along way and the handling was the best yet,even in the wet without any adjusment it felt good
now ill have to wait another week to try and get on pace with the leaders
but even with my 1st round time i managed 6th in the A
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FYI.. Purchased a Trinity Killshot and the motor fit fine. Looks like any fit issues have been addressed. I did rotate the end plate to index the solder tabs where i like them but that was a 30 second process.
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