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Old 10-30-2012, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bucketboy
Yes but it makes the steering much more precise
If you're referring to the link with the servo saver, it would be more precise at the higher point as it take a larger movement of the servo to make the same movement of the wheels.

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Old 10-30-2012, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Skiddins
If you're referring to the link with the servo saver, it would be more precise at the higher point as it take a larger movement of the servo to make the same movement of the wheels.

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I think you have that backwards. The longer the lever the less rotation required for a given amount of steering throw.
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Originally Posted by Xpress
I think you have that backwards. The longer the lever the less rotation required for a given amount of steering throw.
Yes, the longer the servo horn, the more speed and travel, at the expense of torque and resolution.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:15 PM
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Didn't Hudy buy up an entire batch of Hanulec's spool outdrives for their own use?
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Xpress
I think you have that backwards. The longer the lever the less rotation required for a given amount of steering throw.
Originally Posted by andrewdoherty
Yes, the longer the servo horn, the more speed and travel, at the expense of torque and resolution.
Yep, you're correct, after staring at my steering linkages etc it all became clear

I don't really want to have to butcher the saver, but I don't think full lock is achievable in the lower central position without modifying the saver.

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Old 10-30-2012, 08:35 PM
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Got my car today,will start building her tomorrow, any tips for the build
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by syndr0me
Didn't Hudy buy up an entire batch of Hanulec's spool outdrives for their own use?
Are you referring to the soon to be invented and patented by Xray optimized spool outdrives?
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Originally Posted by Xpress
Are you referring to the soon to be invented and patented by Xray optimized spool outdrives?
What ever could you mean?
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Originally Posted by syndr0me
What ever could you mean?
That's a different concept to the xray ones.
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Skiddins

I don't really want to have to butcher the saver, but I don't think full lock is achievable in the lower central position without modifying the saver.

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Some may call it "butchering" if prefer the term "optimization"

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Old 10-31-2012, 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Xpress
Are you referring to the soon to be invented and patented by Xray optimized spool outdrives?
On my T3 never used the plastic ones, i use this ones released on Nov,2011:


Solid Axle Driveshaft Adapter - HUDY Spring Steel™
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:55 AM
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XRAY can even do better:

305136 Alu Solid Axle Driveshaft Adapters (2) - Hard Coated

release date: Sep. 19, 2008
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Originally Posted by Mikkel_R
If Corey could post what set up changes he would make on a very low grip track and explain why that would be great.

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Unfortunately, every track surface is different and each change may not work across the board. Another thing worth mentioning is depending on the carpet and what the the layout looks like, you might find that the track offers more forward bite than lateral grip, and vice versa. Before making any siginificant changes make sure that you are NOT chasing the track, speaking to locals about what the tracks does throughout the day helps greatly, but if its brand new carpet like IIC, Indoor champs or Snowbords, just wait for the grip to come up before taking a big swing at it. Lastly, sort out your tire prep as you may be able to get allot more grip just by adjusting the length of time your compound sits on the tires or the type of compound.

Below is what I have found to work from both testing with Andrew and from when I used to race.

To increase forward bite:

Stand up shocks
Less camber
More rear toe
More front droop
Higher rear roll center
Thinner rear diff oil
Spool

To increase side bite:

More droop all round
Shocks in
More camber
Shorter links
Lighter swaybars
Lighter springs
Lighter oil

Keep in mind, you can go too far with any of these changes and end up going the wrong direction.
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by jorgesimes
On my T3 never used the plastic ones, i use this ones released on Nov,2011:


Solid Axle Driveshaft Adapter - HUDY Spring Steel™
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XRAY can even do better:

305136 Alu Solid Axle Driveshaft Adapters (2) - Hard Coated

release date: Sep. 19, 2008
The trouble with Xray's outdrives for blades is that a lot of the blade is left exposed which means you wear a groove in them.
On Xray's forum I mentioned that they needed better outdrives for their spools.
Perhaps they've listened
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Corey, can you explain what forward bite is? Do you mean traction going forward? I don't think I have ever had a car just spin it's wheels unless on pavement. I only race on carpet. The only weird handling issue I have ever faces is a back end that wont stay planted when I pour on the power at the apex of a turn. The back end comes loose. Would that be lateral grip?
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