Xray T4 '13
#466
That's too bad they want to make it more complicated than necessary. I'll take a bet that at least 50% of Xray owners would like them as a option.
#467
I agree Adrian, and that's my point. It would appear the T4 is a very stiff when seeing the nats setups.
Why would you want a stiff car? They are less forgiving to drive and make it harder to find the setup sweet spot. The last few generations of sedans from every manufacturer have gotten more flexy and faster every time (T3 2012, 417X, BD7, TC6.1WC, Mi4CXL, TCXX, TF6) all of the top cars.
I would imagine the T4 is comparable to all these other top level cars as far as flex.
I would imagine the T4 is comparable to all these other top level cars as far as flex.
#468
Tech Master
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There's no way to please everybody. It's like asking Subaru to make a non boxer style engine. They just don't make em. What works for one company may not work with others. Just accept the the fact that no matter how much you may plead for a certain feature, it may never come.
#469
I have seen the little plastic mounts rotate and add friction to arm movement many times. Kinda why exotek makes the XR3 chassis...
#470
Yes that's what I thought, but the team drivers seem to be trying to get more flex. Look at how few screws they removed in the top deck and running split toe blocks in the front. I guess to get more steering from the limited 25 degree steering stop. lol I can't wait to get mine and starting messing around with it. Can't wait to build the new shocks.
#471
I was thinking, I would actually like to see battery strap cut outs on the electronics side. I would like to mess around with and test chassis flex left/right side. I would like to simulate the battery side flex. I think the new mount has potential to simulate it by putting one sided servo tape and removing the gap between the chassis and servo much like the battery.
#473
Yes that's what I thought, but the team drivers seem to be trying to get more flex. Look at how few screws they removed in the top deck and running split toe blocks in the front. I guess to get more steering from the limited 25 degree steering stop. lol I can't wait to get mine and starting messing around with it. Can't wait to build the new shocks.
#474
Tech Champion
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Yes that's what I thought, but the team drivers seem to be trying to get more flex. Look at how few screws they removed in the top deck and running split toe blocks in the front. I guess to get more steering from the limited 25 degree steering stop. lol I can't wait to get mine and starting messing around with it. Can't wait to build the new shocks.
You want to get the car to have lots of grip and steering so you can reduce your steering throw with your dual rate (often to less than 25*). This reduces tire slip/scrub and improves corner speed.
This comes through setup changes. Shock angles, springs, oil, roll centers, camber link angles/camber gain, sway bars, droop, down stops and even chassis flex.
Leaving out screws and split suspension mounts are small changes compared to other things like setting changes. It sounds like they were really close on the setup and wanted some subtle tweaks to get more speed.
#475
Yes that's what I thought, but the team drivers seem to be trying to get more flex. Look at how few screws they removed in the top deck and running split toe blocks in the front. I guess to get more steering from the limited 25 degree steering stop. lol I can't wait to get mine and starting messing around with it. Can't wait to build the new shocks.
That's why if a lower end club racer tries the car of someone who's much faster they always find it almost undriveable and far too sensitive.
Skiddins
P.S. If you got the pivot ball system you are always going on about, that would reduce flex even more
Looks like AdrianM just beat me to a response
Last edited by Skiddins; 10-08-2012 at 04:40 PM. Reason: AdrianM posted before I'd finished
#476
I only run full xray parts and just think it should be an option at least. I have won all but one, got hacked by a lapper, VTA race I have entered, I don't crash and I am not slow.....But I am not Paul L either
Not trying to brag but you need to know I am not some lap traffic banging around the track.
#477
Team EAM
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Yes that's what I thought, but the team drivers seem to be trying to get more flex. Look at how few screws they removed in the top deck and running split toe blocks in the front. I guess to get more steering from the limited 25 degree steering stop. lol I can't wait to get mine and starting messing around with it. Can't wait to build the new shocks.
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