Spec-R R1
#1816
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Had to add the weight to make it meet the minimum weight requirement for Vintage Trans-Am (1550 grams). With no weight on it (out of the box), with battery, it was at 1450.
#1817
Tech Apprentice
Raising the outer of the camber links on the front raises the roll center, raising the resistance to chassis roll, and produce less steering.
So basically the setup offered is saying to stiffen the front end but compensate for it by allowing the car to roll easier.
Last edited by lawton70; 08-19-2013 at 08:07 AM. Reason: clarify points
#1818
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I've noticed a few posts where raising the inner camber links on the front will help reduce steering and keep the rear end planted. It is actually the opposite. Raising the inner camber links on the front lowers the roll center, which can be thought of as lowering the resitance to chassis roll, and will give more steering.
Raising the outer of the camber links on the front raises the roll center, raising the resistance to chassis roll, and produce less steering.
So basically the setup offered is saying to stiffen the front end but compensate for it by allowing the car to roll easier.
Raising the outer of the camber links on the front raises the roll center, raising the resistance to chassis roll, and produce less steering.
So basically the setup offered is saying to stiffen the front end but compensate for it by allowing the car to roll easier.
#1819
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What you just said is backwards.....raising the outer pick up point on your camber links will increase grip at that end of the car it will also increase your camber gain. Raising the inner pick up point will indeed reduce grip at that end of the car and it will reduce camber gain.
#1820
Tech Apprentice
right. roll center is a bit of a confusing topic so that is why I called it out. In my mind the end that is allowed to roll more is taking grip from the other end that isn't rolling as much. So think of a car diving into a corner, if the front is allowed to roll easily with a low roll center (by raising the camber link inboard OR lowering the camber link outboard) the front will roll really easily and you may even see it pick up one of the rear tires. The picking up of the rear tire is what takes the grip off the rear giving the front more grip by comparison.
#1821
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Hi JimmyMack12, as a base set up, you'll need the front a bit firmer than the rear - oil and springs, also raise the inner camber links. I have a carpet set up on my blog at www.spec-r-racer.com - our club has an old, low grip carpet as well, so the set up could be OK for you.
You've also got a lot of weight on the car, I don't put any on mine. Good luck with the set up and keep us updated with your car.
You've also got a lot of weight on the car, I don't put any on mine. Good luck with the set up and keep us updated with your car.
Last edited by DriveItLikeYSIT; 08-19-2013 at 07:05 PM.
#1825
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I'm also looking for a servo saver for my savox 1251..Do you know if the Kimbrough Servo Saver-Futaba-Airtronics [KIM201] will work?
#1827
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I just snipped a corner of it off!
#1828
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Building the car now. Its kinda what i expected. the suspension mount plastics are pretty good and i assume the bulkheads are similar. building the shocks and geardif first. plastics are ok here though the aluminum caps are SUPER sharp and without aligning the threads properly will fk the bodies up real quick. Pleased to see ball insert style cups on both sides of the shocks. hope the rest of the ballcups are harder than the shock ones though.
maybe im spoiled by my serpent but this car is quite heavy lol. quite a difference Fiberglass to CF makes i guess.
maybe im spoiled by my serpent but this car is quite heavy lol. quite a difference Fiberglass to CF makes i guess.
#1830
Thanks for clarifying this. Now I need to get my hands on some Schumacher / Shimizu tires
I plan on using a 17.5 t motor in my Spec R S1. I wanted to use a 48P / 72T spur. Does anyone know if either the Kimbrough 48P / 72T Spur [KIM143] or Team Associated 48P / 72T Spur [ASC3922] will fit?
I'm also looking for a servo saver for my savox 1251..Do you know if the Kimbrough Servo Saver-Futaba-Airtronics [KIM201] will work?
I plan on using a 17.5 t motor in my Spec R S1. I wanted to use a 48P / 72T spur. Does anyone know if either the Kimbrough 48P / 72T Spur [KIM143] or Team Associated 48P / 72T Spur [ASC3922] will fit?
I'm also looking for a servo saver for my savox 1251..Do you know if the Kimbrough Servo Saver-Futaba-Airtronics [KIM201] will work?