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Old 03-13-2005, 11:56 PM   #1
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hi guys, i was wondering which is the quicker motor between the new Trinity Cobalt and the peak vantage V2 surikarn edition. if there is any other high performance modified motors that you feel perform better then either of these please make a suggestion.
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Old 03-13-2005, 11:59 PM   #2
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Used them both:

Cobalt, no question...

Usually the V2 based motors run about 1 wind off from my opinion. I have tried the Hara and standard version from Orion and the Surikarn from Peak (which I think is the same as the Hara in relation to the arm size)

plus you get 2 sets of high use brushes with the cobalt...

Normally I don't like Trinity, but you can't go wrong with their new motor...

And I didn't even start about the little wood box the cobalt comes in...
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Old 03-14-2005, 01:39 AM   #3
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the hara V2 and the trinity D5 if you can get one but you must have a lathe for the D5 because they wear a lot quicker than the V2

V2- smoother power band
D5 - snappy power band
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thanks stasi, BTW when are you gana bring ur butt out to EC? you gotta race on the big boys track!

kansasracer: thankyou, so in other words what your saying is a 9T V2 motor has about the same performance as a 10T cobalt? also do you think trinitys remark that the cobalt is the fastest mod available is correct? just one more question. for a med-large track with a straight of about 30-40 mtrs and a fairly flowing infield, which winds in the cobalt series would you reccomend? also which would suit more, a single wind or a double wind? thankyou
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And I didn't even start about the little wood box the cobalt comes in...
Yes you did.
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I am a big fan of the single wind in touring car, but the difference between the two is that the single has a little more rip coming out of the corner. I really think that the Cobalt is the one to beat right now....

For a medium sized track, I would look at the regular round wire arm, single wind and as low as you think it can go (I don't know if you guys have a motor limit)

I am picking up a 10 single with round wire for a track similar to yours...

But the V2s are not bad at all either....I just think they are a tad slower...
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kansas: I think you are slightly confused in your V2-Cobalt comparison. The Cobalt has a more torque powerband in comparison with the Surikarn or Hara V2. That is because those V2 motors included the round face brushes. Now Orion/Peak sells edge brushes which give the torque of a square brush. Round brushes are more gradual with arching on the comm, which gives them more rpm, but less torque.

Point is, the V2 with edge brushes is just as good as the cobalt on any track.
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kansas: I think you are slightly confused in your V2-Cobalt comparison. The Cobalt has a more torque powerband in comparison with the Surikarn or Hara V2. That is because those V2 motors included the round face brushes. Now Orion/Peak sells edge brushes which give the torque of a square brush. Round brushes are more gradual with arching on the comm, which gives them more rpm, but less torque.

Point is, the V2 with edge brushes is just as good as the cobalt on any track.
I can honestly say that I have not used the square brushes on a V2 so I cannot comment from experience....
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I would like to add that the V2's have a totally different powerband. They didnt have the rip to me of an epic can but then again i wasnt running edge brushes I was running sprints. the V2 seems to have power all the way through the RPM range. That was very helpfull on the bigger tracks If someone was on your tail in a slow turn then the epic might be a little better. overall I think the V2's are the best out there and the track record has shown it. They are dominating in touring car.
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The edge brush is still cylindrical, but the edges on the face are squared off, making them arch more when they pass from one comm segment to the next.
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