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#1231
Tech Elite
iTrader: (16)
I've got it stuck in my head that stock cars need to be shorter. I am sure there are plenty that could prove that wrong. I have not tried it with anything but 17.5 as I built it just for the Timezone race. I got beat by Blake Bell by a few seconds driving an inline Xti (stock) this past weekend against my cross pack crc car. Now I am not going to claim we were chasing down Hebert and Haines, but we were not driving clown cars either. In the past, the CRC rule of thumb for inline vs trans-pack has been: inline is good for faster - sweepier layouts while cross-pack is better in tight twisty little tracks. Now that a year has passed since the release of the Xti, I revisited the inline set up. I will admit that I gave up pretty quickly last year. With some more understanding of what that car likes, there's no question, it will get the job done.
#1232
Tech Elite
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I had a little fun with 17.5 powered inline Xti this weekend at the Timezone GP. I put it P2 on the grid and was fortunate enough to grab the W. Randy was exceptional with his kit Xti at IIC, so I was easily inspired for this project. I wanted to make sure that I was using the latest springs (except fronts). This was a straight forward build with nothing funky done. The idea was to get a little more weight forward to reduce front tire slip in effort to see if I can reduce post run fade.... more so at club tracks then big events. I reversed the esc and battery location which makes the wires much shorter and efficient. I did have to use a piece of double back tape under the battery plate to keep it from sliding into the servo. On my car, I did have to sand the football a little to snuggle the esc a little closer. I wanted the shorter wheel base, so I chose the Altered Ego chassis which builds up at 197. I did use the Xti rear plate. I want to say the stock Xti chassis builds at 203. This car drove really well! I built it a week ago. I haven't raced stock since last spring but to my surprise I nailed the set up. Didn't lay a wrench to it all weekend! Now that's lazy racing.
Here's how I put it together:
Front:
.50 front springs (old black)
Kingpin .402" with 50k that I heavily neglected
5* caster block with 2.0 riser
1* camber
1f/2b caster
3.25mm r/h
Middle:
Red center spring (new)
25wt shock oil
Tall ball stud on the upper plate
20k tubes
.50 sides springs, touching
3.5mm r/h
Rear:
-1.5 droop
3.5mm r/h
17.5 KS @ 57* time, 57/72
Tires:
CRC Black fronts; 40.8, CA full sidewall, full dope w/ SXT
CRC Yellow rears; 41.5, no glue, full dope w/ SXT
Body:
Black Art R8C
Brian
Here's how I put it together:
Front:
.50 front springs (old black)
Kingpin .402" with 50k that I heavily neglected
5* caster block with 2.0 riser
1* camber
1f/2b caster
3.25mm r/h
Middle:
Red center spring (new)
25wt shock oil
Tall ball stud on the upper plate
20k tubes
.50 sides springs, touching
3.5mm r/h
Rear:
-1.5 droop
3.5mm r/h
17.5 KS @ 57* time, 57/72
Tires:
CRC Black fronts; 40.8, CA full sidewall, full dope w/ SXT
CRC Yellow rears; 41.5, no glue, full dope w/ SXT
Body:
Black Art R8C
Brian
I'm also running the alter ego chassis with the xti pod plate.
Set up identical except battery across the rear and 30 in the center shock.
My car is extremely easy to drive but I'm looking for more steering coming off the straight.
It is the straight into a sweeper finished with a 180.
The car really pushes in the 180.
I was recommended to try drag brake.
Thoughts?
Thanks
Dayton
#1233
Tech Addict
iTrader: (9)
New to 1/12 scale foam tires
I recently purchased a used Xti and it came with a large selection of tires. I'm fairly new to foam tire, so can some please post the colors in order from hard to soft? I'm also going to be running on asphalt so what would be the softest tire I should be using?
#1234
Tech Regular
White
Yellow
Gray-low
Pink
Magenta
Gray
Chrome
Purple
Black
Only catch is the rubber content in the tire, for example black and purple are really close to the same hardness but purple tends to get sticky toward the end of the run and will have more traction than black. Pink and yellow are like that too, about the same durometer rating but yellow has less traction than pink.
For 17.5 yellow rear / black front or graylow rear / chrome front are good starting points.
#1235
Tech Elite
iTrader: (16)
Our track is medium to high grip. 60x 90 I think, I'm at a 96.5 roll out.
I'm also running the alter ego chassis with the xti pod plate.
Set up identical except battery across the rear and 30 in the center shock.
My car is extremely easy to drive but I'm looking for more steering coming off the straight.
It is the straight into a sweeper finished with a 180.
The car really pushes in the 180.
I was recommended to try drag brake.
Thoughts?
Thanks
Dayton
I'm also running the alter ego chassis with the xti pod plate.
Set up identical except battery across the rear and 30 in the center shock.
My car is extremely easy to drive but I'm looking for more steering coming off the straight.
It is the straight into a sweeper finished with a 180.
The car really pushes in the 180.
I was recommended to try drag brake.
Thoughts?
Thanks
Dayton
Just caught one more thing, you said you are cross pack. The side springs I am running are lighter for inline. You need .60's, 30k in the tubes.
#1237
Tech Apprentice
I'll be there tonight, I can help you if you want. Your competition may not be pleased if I make it faster.
#1241
Tech Addict
iTrader: (9)
If they are CRC tires they go in order from softest to hardest:
White
Yellow
Gray-low
Pink
Magenta
Gray
Chrome
Purple
Black
Only catch is the rubber content in the tire, for example black and purple are really close to the same hardness but purple tends to get sticky toward the end of the run and will have more traction than black. Pink and yellow are like that too, about the same durometer rating but yellow has less traction than pink.
For 17.5 yellow rear / black front or graylow rear / chrome front are good starting points.
White
Yellow
Gray-low
Pink
Magenta
Gray
Chrome
Purple
Black
Only catch is the rubber content in the tire, for example black and purple are really close to the same hardness but purple tends to get sticky toward the end of the run and will have more traction than black. Pink and yellow are like that too, about the same durometer rating but yellow has less traction than pink.
For 17.5 yellow rear / black front or graylow rear / chrome front are good starting points.
#1243
Tech Elite
iTrader: (16)
That's awful heavy gauge wire. Might suggest rewiring with 16g. It will be "way" more flexible and fit under the body better. Plus it will be a ton lighter, all the wire weight is upstairs. You want to keep your weight low in the car should grip get high and traction rolling should show up. Plus, I always tell drivers to never bundle their wire with a zip tie or such. It makes the wire bundle too rigid. Great job, though! Go out and dominate.
#1244
taller gearing
I can't seem to find a smaller spur than a 72 to gear a 21.5 up. I can fit upto a 52 as of now what mods are you all doing to get on larger pinions? I need to be in the 57-63 range. Thanks
#1245
Tech Regular
72 spur 52 pinion 43mm tire is 97.56mm rollout, not a bad start depending on track size and class rules.