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Old 08-03-2012, 03:57 AM   #46
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I have run a single Speed passion Gt2.0 Pro in mod for 3 years not one sec problems ... and recently tried a Hobbywing V3 both are awesome esc's for mod, so any re-branded variation of these will be good

I personally like the V3 as it has more fine tuning options and has the data logger which helps for squeezing those last few tenths out of a lap

just my opinion, others may disagree
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:57 AM   #47
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Look at http://rcprogear.com/ it list what wins.
Or at least, it lists what the sponsored drivers have to run
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Sponsorship is the real reason why , and is also why Novak is used in offroad racing.... That does not make Novak any worst than anybody else, just different for the non followers !!! The Kinetic 2S is good to try without software upgrades for dirt cheap...
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Or at least, it lists what the sponsored drivers have to run
If you ask me, it says none of the fast guys choose to run Novak.... Otherwise they would've sought sponsorship with em, right?
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Also, I've never heard of anybody running a 3.5t with full boost in a six minute race... I have seen 4.5t motors with 20 extra boost , but the speedpassion esc was at 200 after four minutes though....Forget about tekins here...
I don't think anyone needs a 3.5t with full boost. My comments were that I needed to run my 4.5t at full boost on my LRP. I did look at some of the more recent speed passion setup sheets and it looks like most guys are running 4.5t with 26 of boost and some turbo at the bigger tracks so my setup isn't out of line with that.
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Novak esc's are too inexpensive for racers to need sponsorship to run them . Others are way too expensive, and blow up constantly...... You do the Math... I'm not sponsored, and I'll stick with my inexpensive Novaks versus the always changing field of new esc's... They blow so much that you'll need to keep getting newer and newer versions of the same thing just to participate... Meantime some companies are getting rich at your expense ! The only esc I ever blew was a Lrp AI super reverse running a 10t motor in a two wheel drive pan car ... Lrp did send me a new one, but I never used it again !
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Troy, you mean 26 boost on top of motor timing(30), plus turbo(15) ? 71 of total timing ??? Wow, no wonder their esc's are melting.... I run only 30 motor timing in my 3.5t, at 8.409FDR I think that's enough to keep up with the others ....
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Troy, you mean 26 boost on top of motor timing(30), plus turbo(15) ? 71 of total timing ??? Wow, no wonder their esc's are melting.... I run only 30 motor timing in my 3.5t, at 8.409FDR I think that's enough to keep up with the others ....
71 isnt that bad. Remember, at 50k rpm the dynamic 'feel' of the motor isnt like a shorted circuit at all, its more like a capacitor you are charging a discharging over and over, the boost overrides that and forces current through the motor before the rotor can get turned to that point and counteract the induced magnetic field. At 0rpm, 71 degrees would just cause the motor to turn backwards, at 50000, its just part of the game if they have the advance curve right.
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Ive seen more novaks burn up than any other brand
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Troy, you mean 26 boost on top of motor timing(30), plus turbo(15) ? 71 of total timing ??? Wow, no wonder their esc's are melting.... I run only 30 motor timing in my 3.5t, at 8.409FDR I think that's enough to keep up with the others ....
I'm not sure what motor timing they are running on their motors.
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it's 26 steps of timing not actual degrees.

26 steps is around 13 actual degrees
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Here is a link to one of Rheinards set up sheets. 4.5t, 15 endbell timing, 25 boost, 28 turbo.

Maybe the sheets are wrong but it calls everything out in degrees not steps.
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I am new to mod racing. been racing stock 17.5 for awhile.

Just want to know what ESC to get. I would really like one that doesn't require hooking up to a laptop computer to adjust timing/turbo etc.

Which ESCs out there are capable of that and are generally reliable?
Just because this seems to be so misunderstood...

You can adjust boost on the Tekin RS and RSpro right on the unit without a laptop or program box. The onboard programming has 5 preset boost settings from 0deg to 45deg that are very good for almost all setups. The led tree is very easy to understand and adjust.

However if you are going to run a 3.5 fully boosted you will likely need an esc with a heatsink and a fan. RSPro would not be your best choice, but we have something coming that would be
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Here is a link to one of Rheinards set up sheets. 4.5t, 15 endbell timing, 25 boost, 28 turbo.

Maybe the sheets are wrong but it calls everything out in degrees not steps.
They call it degrees to not confuse the masses but they are steps. You can add 64 steps in total. They programmed it this way to make the timing more efficient and gradually or something. Tekin uses the same trick.

Go to the hobbywing thread and ask there if you don't believe it. They are the original manufacturer of the speed passion esc and the software is identical to the hobbywing software.
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Our boost and turbo are actual degrees of timing.

Our sensorless timing advance is a percentage 0 to 100% of the 30deg we can advance the timing in sensorless. That is a little confusing... Both go faster when the number is bigger, but they do not compare very well.
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