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Old 07-27-2012, 12:22 PM   #286
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This is the worst race I've ever seen.
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:26 PM   #287
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The only difinitive qualifier IMO is the first round with everyone running fresh tires... After that it is who's running used vs new and who made the most of it with new tires.....
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I didn't think we had anyone running for us at the worlds. LOL.
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:03 PM   #289
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I am wondering, from now on, should the team/mfr manager should have some degree on weather/forecast knowledge so he can predict the rain so he can arrange when to use new/old tires for qualify round..? I bet that will be on alot of the new manager's resume...
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Isn't that going to be on the next SP speed control?
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:14 PM   #291
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Rank Driver Nat Pilot Nr Points 1. Heat 2. Heat 3. Heat 4. Heat 5. Heat 6. Heat

1 Atushi Hara JP 125 460 18 5:10.370 (153) 17 5:03.817 (139) 18 5:18.646 (152) 2 0:35.528 (32) - (-) 17 5:16.020 (155)
2 Ronald Völker DE 3 459 18 5:09.314 (155) 18 5:11.159 (155) 17 5:03.145 (149) 3 1:06.637 (33) - (-) 7 2:45.732 (61)
3 Jilles Groskamp NL 85 458 18 5:10.586 (151) 18 5:17.018 (152) 17 5:04.939 (147) 18 5:12.962 (155) - (-) 2 0:58.735 (54)
4 Marc Rheinard DE 1 449 18 5:11.577 (150) 17 5:01.898 (146) 17 5:07.848 (138) 18 5:14.482 (153) - (-) 2 0:51.646 (55)
5 Viktor Wilck SE 111 449 18 5:10.376 (152) 17 5:00.336 (149) 17 5:04.661 (148) 17 5:03.935 (142) - (-) 1 0:22.144 (53)
6 Naoto Matsukura JP 120 447 18 5:12.879 (147) 17 5:02.070 (145) 18 5:15.109 (155) 17 5:03.850 (143) - (-) 4 1:42.091 (60)
7 Christopher Krapp DE 5 445 18 5:12.856 (148) 17 5:01.594 (147) 17 5:06.007 (144) 18 5:17.418 (150) - (-) 2 0:44.378 (57)
8 Loďc Jasmin FR 56 444 18 5:12.274 (149) 5 1:43.707 (31) 17 5:05.517 (146) 14 4:14.437 (45) - (-) 16 5:12.526 (149)
9 Andy Moore GB 67 443 18 5:14.946 (143) - (-) 17 5:02.709 (150) - (-) - (-) 16 5:05.260 (150)
10 Chris Grainger GB 68 443 - (-) 17 5:00.862 (148) 13 4:11.575 (42) 17 5:00.962 (148) - (-) 16 5:13.262 (147)
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:19 PM   #292
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Wait......interesting, let me think about it....
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I was told massive PROTEST going toward to the official right now regarding the last round.............this is getting more interesting.
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:23 PM   #294
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That makes for exciting racing. What is supposed to be the worlds most important race drivers volunteering to sit out.

STUPID>>>
Did you ever think that new tires for every round would be too expensive for the teams? How could they possibly afford six sets of tires for the worlds? Sarcastic rhetorical questions here folks!

The tire rules at this race are the worst I have ever seen! Run whatever homemade (super secret) tires with any sauce you want for 1/12th scale and then two sets of tires with no sauce outside. Screw the weather this race was doomed before it even started! I am so disappointed that drivers had to decide not to run some of the quals just to save them for later rounds.

New Tires Every Round...Then we will see who is the best in the world!
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That last round and a half was just messed up. I understand running in wet conditions but conditions from heat 1 to heat 13 constantly got better, then suddenly worse again for heat 14. There was simply no consistency and now two rounds were fairly well a waste, not showing the true potential of anyone.

I honestly would have felt better about this if they DID water the track between heats in the last round.
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:36 PM   #296
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Did you ever think that new tires for every round would be too expensive for the teams? How could they possibly afford six sets of tires for the worlds? Sarcastic rhetorical questions here folks!

The tire rules at this race are the worst I have ever seen! Run whatever homemade (super secret) tires with any sauce you want for 1/12th scale and then two sets of tires with no sauce outside. Screw the weather this race was doomed before it even started! I am so disappointed that drivers had to decide not to run some of the quals just to save them for later rounds.

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The last sedan worlds allowed teams to share tires leaving the bigger teams with a huge advantage... Lower main drivers giving up their best set to the A-main drivers....
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The only difinitive qualifier IMO is the first round with everyone running fresh tires... After that it is who's running used vs new and who made the most of it with new tires.....
Not very definitive since several fast guys sat out the first round.
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I honestly think the CONCEPT of the tires rule is to give the drivers some CHALLENGE on how to use it and when to use it. It is not about the cost...I was told coming to race WC is like $5000 USD on each driver. Another $500 on tires does not really make any different...

It is the 2 sets of tires that is crazy........they should make it 4 sets for 6 rounds. The challenge of the tires choice is still there but it is not EXTREME like they have to save the last set of new tires for the last round when RAIN drop on the track...
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The last sedan worlds allowed teams to share tires leaving the bigger teams with a huge advantage... Lower main drivers giving up their best set to the A-main drivers....
Yeah this was a bad idea too...It should be that every driver gets six sets of tires and then three sets for the mains...easy...Done!

It is worlds, it costs a lot to get there, these teams spend lost of cash to attend and the payday for the winner (both personal and manufacturer) is significant. Tires should not determine the winner...driving and setup should!
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Are there 8 or 10 or 12 cars on the starting grid for the Mains?
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