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Old 06-26-2012, 01:31 AM   #1
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Im looking to get into a F1 club at my local track, wondering whats the best chassis?
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Im looking to get into a F1 club at my local track, wondering whats the best chassis?
Depends what the rules allow. Depending on motors allowed, allowable chassis width, rubber/foam tyres etc.
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Also on the grip level of the track and how smooth it is.
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Im looking to get into a F1 club at my local track, wondering whats the best chassis?
If you want to know what works best at your local track, the best place to ask is at your local track.

Either the drivers there will have tried different cars there, so you know which one is best, or they will all be running the same car so if you get the same you will have plenty of help and no disadvantage to others.

We all have different opinions on what the 'best' car is, based entirely on our own experience.
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Just my opinion,

Rubber tires - Tamiya F104
Foam tires - Tamiya F103 or F104W
Bumpy low grip track, lots of corners - 3Racing FGX

Asphalt - Soft chassis like Tamiya F104 F60 with fiberglass chassis and cut top deck.

Carpet - Stiffer chassis.

Hope this helps.
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Just my opinion,

Rubber tires - Tamiya F104
Foam tires - Tamiya F103 or F104W
Bumpy low grip track, lots of corners - 3Racing FGX

Asphalt - Soft chassis like Tamiya F104 F60 with fiberglass chassis and cut top deck.

Carpet - Stiffer chassis.

Hope this helps.
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Just my opinion,

Rubber tires - Tamiya F104
Foam tires - Tamiya F103 or F104W
Bumpy low grip track, lots of corners - 3Racing FGX

Asphalt - Soft chassis like Tamiya F104 F60 with fiberglass chassis and cut top deck.

Carpet - Stiffer chassis.

Hope this helps.
Wow,My opinion is completely different.Just goes to show there is more than one way to skin a cat.
F103 for everything,unless it 190mm then F104.
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How refreshing to have a 'what's best' thread answered with sensible, honest replies instead of the
"get an Xray/Tamiya/Associated/Corally/HPI/Schumacher - I run one and it's great!"
posts that touring cars usually get.
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Just my opinion,

Rubber tires - Tamiya F104
Foam tires - Tamiya F103 or F104W
Bumpy low grip track, lots of corners - 3Racing FGX

Asphalt - Soft chassis like Tamiya F104 F60 with fiberglass chassis and cut top deck.

Carpet - Stiffer chassis.

Hope this helps.
Thanks - that's a pretty good list.
Would you consider the X1 and the V2 as part of "Rubber tires - Tamiya F104" ?
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We don't have the V2 yet but hopefully soon. Need to test before I can have an opinion.

Yes the X1 is rubber tires, low grip track. But it will be too heavy for higher grip track (where weight then becomes a disadvantage).

My thoughts:

Weight - is an advantage from low grip to a certain grip level
Weight - is a disadvantage from high grip to a certain grip level

As for 103 rubber, my feel is the wider rubber tires are inefficient (or tends to break grip suddenly) compared to the narrow 104 rubber (which tends to loose grip but more controllable). I drive F103 and F104 rubbers back to back many times, and I just prefer F104 for our grip level. Lap times the same, but F103 rubber tends to spin out more easily than the F104 on rubber and asphalt. The much longer wheelbase of the F104 makes it more stable and easy to drive (on rubber).

Here was the result of a race I organized last Saturday. Veterans are rubber tires only. Beginners/intermediate are allowed to run foams.

Qualifying (low grip):



Final results after 3 x 15 minute mains (medium grip):



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Just my opinion,

Rubber tires - Tamiya F104
Foam tires - Tamiya F103 or F104W
Bumpy low grip track, lots of corners - 3Racing FGX

Asphalt - Soft chassis like Tamiya F104 F60 with fiberglass chassis and cut top deck.

Carpet - Stiffer chassis.

Hope this helps.
+1, pretty much sums it up! The X1 is designed for Asphalt, 103's are quick as long as there is grip but not as quick as the 104 in my opinion, they are just more nimble. The FGX is by far a better handling car in low grip especially parking lots.

here are the cars in order:
FQ01 (104)
TRG (103 based)
TRG (103based)
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104
104

The TRG has the width of the 103 but the wheelbase is even longer than the 104. we havent had a competitive 103 yet. We run 21.5 on rubber
(UF1houston.com) Current lap and qualifying record holder on all three tracks right now is the FQ01 (which is being re-released in a week or two).
In my opinon stick with the 104 based cars, i also think that the new V2 is geared towards carpet but we will soon see. most carbon fiber chassis cars dont work as well as the G10 chassis on asphalt.
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If you are starting out with F1 as a new class then you have the option of making a one car class (any of the available chassis that have local support). Its an option that may be successful if a lower cost chassis is chosen to make it more affordable to more players.
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If you are starting out with F1 as a new class then you have the option of making a one car class (any of the available chassis that have local support). Its an option that may be successful if a lower cost chassis is chosen to make it more affordable to more players.
Single chassis is a good suggestion. But for some consideration...

Manufacturers discontinue chassis on a regular basis. This could be the dealbreaker.
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Single chassis is a good suggestion. But for some consideration...

Manufacturers discontinue chassis on a regular basis. This could be the dealbreaker.
Agreed but if a cheaper F104 setup was chosen to begin with there will be Tamiya parts support for a long time and an option to allow certain upgrades as the class grows into the more advanced setups.
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Here's what to consider:

Width rule- can you run a 200mm chassis or 190mm? If 200mm is legal, get a wide car for sure. Otherwise, you need a narrow car like F104, for example.

Tires- if you have to run rubber, a full graphite long upper deck car might not be right for you. A fiberglass car with a short top deck might not help on carpet and foams...

And as it was pointed out, find out what is popular in your area. It's much easier to get help especially starting out if there is a knowledge base at your track. Parts are also easier.
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