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Old 04-24-2005, 10:37 PM   #1426
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I dont know about the fan mount, and Matt got the swaybars answered. But for Scott's track I would start somewhere around 6.8 with a monster stock, but dont get mad if it sucks, I havent raced stock in over a year
i agree with randy... good place to start. at socal we run 7.10 to 7.50 typically. and scott's track is a lot more open.

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Old 04-24-2005, 10:57 PM   #1427
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The complete Rayspeed set as used in the front is RS-25. The complete upper type as used in the rear is ZS-412.
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the BD uses ZS-412 in the rear? i just saw a pic of those sways. they are not the "U" shape. but instead... this shape \_/
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Old 04-24-2005, 11:33 PM   #1428
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the BD uses ZS-412 in the rear? i just saw a pic of those sways. they are not the "U" shape. but instead... this shape \_/
Are you sure? that part # is supposed to be for the upper type sway bar kit. According to the BD parts listing that is the type included for the rear sway bar.
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alright, according to the BD parts listing, ZS-412FSP is the Front anti-roll bar wire set, Upper mount type, and includes 3 sway bars and the hardware to mount it. This is the one that is used on the rear of the BD.
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I dunno yet Rob. If the weather is bad, I'll head up to Debbies. If it's nice and clear.. more than likely I'll stay here and run some asphalt. Try my setup for Debbies track as a starting point. Then go from there. If I did run up there, more than likely it would be stock so I could run with Keith. However, I heard it's a big hack fest in that class haha. I normally ran 19t down here. So I'm not sure yet. I'd have to buy a new set of foams if I ran 19t seeing as how I don't have any Cyan or Magenta's left. I'll know more later in the week.

I though the BD used the SDW swaybar set?
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Old 04-24-2005, 11:50 PM   #1431
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I though the BD used the SDW swaybar set?
I don't have an SDW but from the pics it looks like they're the same sway bars. Rayspeed in front and Upper type in the rear.
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I thought the part numbers were the same from the SDW and BD sway bars...
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alright, according to the BD parts listing, ZS-412FSP is the Front anti-roll bar wire set, Upper mount type, and includes 3 sway bars and the hardware to mount it. This is the one that is used on the rear of the BD.
im all confused now.

ZS-412FSP is for the front of the BD? and its also used in the rear? i have the car in front of me now, the rear sway bar is wider than the front (same shape though)

SDW uses the exact same "shaped" sway bars as the BD. (i have both cars in front of me)

my question is... what is the part number for the sway bars in the rear for the BD? sway bar set of the SDW only comes with one bar.

thanks for the help guys.
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Old 04-25-2005, 12:05 AM   #1434
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im all confused now.

ZS-412FSP is for the front of the BD? and its also used in the rear? i have the car in front of me now, the rear sway bar is wider than the front (same shape though)

SDW uses the exact same "shaped" sway bars as the BD. (i have both cars in front of me)

my question is... what is the part number for the sway bars in the rear for the BD? sway bar set of the SDW only comes with one bar.

thanks for the help guys.
The ZS-412FSP sway bar kit was originally used as an upper type on the front of the mr4tc. On the BD it is used on the rear of the car. It includes 3 bars and some hardware that was originally used to mount it to the front of the old mr4tc.
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The ZS-412FSP sway bar kit was originally used as an upper type on the front of the mr4tc. On the BD it is used on the rear of the car. It includes 3 bars and some hardware that was originally used to mount it to the front of the old mr4tc.
thats what im talking about! so its like this?

SDW/BD Sway bars:
RS-25 - Front of the car
ZS-412FSP - Rear of the car

right? (sorry.. i slept too long today, my head hurts! )
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THANK YOU! thanks for clearing that up matt.. i can sleep better tonight knowing what sway bars to purchase tomorrow.
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Old 04-25-2005, 12:30 AM   #1438
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Matt: finally got my BD handling just the way i want it to. I've got the right amount of turn in now but still with tons of on-power steering. ironically though, rather than playing with the ackeman positions or standing my front shocks up to the outter most hole on the tower (have mine in the 2nd hole in), i decided to stand my rear shocks instead! also put in a silver (1.8mm) sway bar in the rear to replace that thin black one that comes with the kit. the car is so aggressive now heading into the corners and also exiting. ran it last weekend and chopped off another 0.14 secs off my laptimes. overall i dint have a good run though as i kept clipping the corners. but that wasnt the fault of the car but more of my driving.... but thats the way i like it. i wanna loose a race with nothing to blame but myself.

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So you stood your rear shocks up? That's one of the few changes I made to mine as well, along with a thicker rear sway bar.
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Matt: yup! i did change some other stuff in my BD even prior to this weekend though. basically, what is different from the stock settings are .... 1) front shock at the 2nd hole from the outside, 2) removed spacer under inner front arm mount to get low roll and front kick-up, 3) white rayspeed springs all around, 4) played around a lot with droop settings. Add to that the rear shock position and sway bar and that pretty much my set-up. now all i need is practice time, somthing i never have time to do. im sure i can bring my times down even more if i stop flipping the car everytime i clip a curb. i just love those tight lines ... unfortunately although they help bring the lap times down, a small mistakes and your car goes flip flop! i should try driving more "conservatively". i guess its just in my nature to drive aggressive.
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