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Old 03-17-2008, 06:26 AM   #8056
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I was wondering if this was a good car to get into for a newcomer to TC racing. Thus far, the price is right, and of course I've probably jinxed it now

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=016

This one doesn't seem like it would need a ton of work just to go out have some fun. What do you think?

Are you looking to race or just fool around in the parking lot? Either way, the problem that you'll have is replacement parts.

If you really want to get into TC's, save a little more cash ($150.00), then try to pick up a used car that you can still get parts for. That chassis looks a bit beat to me.
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Old 03-17-2008, 06:30 AM   #8057
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That's just the answer I was looking for! Thanks!! I'll keep looking, but there is so much to wade through.... Yes, I do want to race, and I don't want to have to buy another car after I get the feel for what it's like. I'm still trying to figure out what's really good and competitive that will be around in 5 years.....
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Old 03-17-2008, 06:45 AM   #8058
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That's just the answer I was looking for! Thanks!! I'll keep looking, but there is so much to wade through.... Yes, I do want to race, and I don't want to have to buy another car after I get the feel for what it's like. I'm still trying to figure out what's really good and competitive that will be around in 5 years.....
I think that as your skill develops, you will inevitably upgrade. Of course, that depends on the kit you start out with.

Are there any tracks near you? Do they have a novice or spec class? If so, begin there. IMO, the key for the beginner is racing a chassis that others race where you can share setup tips and learn to tune your car based on your track. Another option is to find a local mentor. Someone that has been racing a while (he doesn't have to be the top driver, just someone who is consistent) who doesn't mind if you become a "tag-along". You can learn the basics, and begin to develop your proficiency.
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Old 03-17-2008, 07:39 AM   #8059
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Thanks Geppetto

Once the local parking lot racing is up and running at HTU, I plan to go and check it out. I would like to get started now in getting a car built and set up so once I get the feel for the car here at home, I can go and hopefully race in the novice class. Like I said though, I want to get something that will be very competitive and yes, easy to get parts for! I know I will inevitabley break things...

I still have everything to learn and quite a lot to read!
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Old 03-20-2008, 01:41 PM   #8060
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Chris's setup

No probs on advice, setup is as follows:

Front
Drive train spool and fixed centre
Roll-bar - 1.3mm
Caster block HB
Camber - -2
Toe angle - 0
Kick up 0
Susp spacer 1mm under all
Steering arm - -0 inline
Bladder Yokomo black, no O ring no rebound
Shock - new body, 1.5mm inside, 11.6mm travel
Spring Yokomo pro dot Pink
Oil 600
Piston 3 hole
Droop - 5.5 to wishbone
Top link inner 1mm under ball
Shock upper 2nd from inside
Shock lower middle
Susp arm - graphite standard length
W/B - 5- -1
Ride height - 5mm
Ackermann 2nd hole from back and CGM steering used

Rear
Roll-bar - 1.1mm
Camber - -2
Toe angle 3.0 all inboard
Susp spacer 0mm
Bladder Yokomo black no O ring no rebound
Shock - new body, 1.5mm inside, 11.6mm travel
Spring Yokomo pro dot blue
Oil - 550
Piston 3
Droop 5 measured to wishbone
Top link inner - 0mm
Top link outer - 2mm with short silver ball
Shock upper 2nd in
Shock lower - outer
Susp arm - graphite
W/B 2-2
Ride height 5
Standard chassis, standard uncut top deck, bomber belts and no rear brace. Cut motor mount and no rear post. UJ rear driveshafts, TIR fronts with Yokomo alloy spool. Alloy rear diff halves
Mazdaspeed shell



Masami's setup was a little different, not entirely sure on all of it.

Thanks for posting the setup john. I have a few questions re: Grainger's setups.
1) Is there a reason why he almost always runs the 0 degree steering hubs? 2)what is the reason for milling the motor mount and removing the rear bracket?
3)what 3 hole piston was Chris using Yokomo, Rayspeed, or another brand?
4)Last what type of feel should I expect with this setup?
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Old 03-21-2008, 01:32 PM   #8061
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1) More steering
2) Increased chassis flex and it then flexes straight across the chassis rather than at an angle.
3) Tamiya
4) We have run this setup everywhere we have been (with a couple of minor changes) so its quite successful. Chris won 6 out of 7 nationals with it last year. It should give good steering and balance and have good rear traction. Its about as good as it gets given the current car and parts we have available at the moment.
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Old 03-21-2008, 03:08 PM   #8062
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Thanks John, I also read your race report in REDR/C which was a nice read...
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any pictures for the milled motor mount?
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Old 03-23-2008, 01:32 PM   #8064
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Post Chris Grainger Carpet Setup

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Does anyone know what Chris's indoor carpet setup is. Are there many changes from his outdoor setup that was recently posted here by john ?

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any pictures for the milled motor mount?
there is one a long way further back up the thread. basically you mill about 2mm off the bottom of the motor mount back to the point that it is opposite the other bulkhead. make sure it doesn't touch the chassis at all.
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any updates on the new yokomo TC?
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Old 03-23-2008, 02:50 PM   #8067
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any pictures for the milled motor mount?
i dont have access to my car at the moment to take a pic, but this will give you an idea

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Old 03-23-2008, 03:40 PM   #8068
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Does anyone know what Chris's indoor carpet setup is. Are there many changes from his outdoor setup that was recently posted here by john ?

Thanks
You can have one here ( http://www.petitrc.com/view_news.php?id=4618 ) but it's from 2005, he might use a different one now.
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does anyone know where i can buy some of the old style platic shock caps with the bleed hole w/screw? any online shops?
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Hey mike I got some brand in packs ,, how many do you want ???
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