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Old 12-02-2006, 03:52 PM   #6436
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the top is ball/kingpin spaced out with a 4mm diameter x .5mm shim on top underneath this is a 1mm blue spacer (wishbone/wheelbase size on sus pins) this keeps the block up higher in the castor block (with me )
Don't understand, with this arrangment you are keeping the steering knuckle(block) as low as possible in the castor block, but then using the lower hole to attach it to the wishbone, to raise it again.
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Old 12-02-2006, 04:12 PM   #6437
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Don't understand, with this arrangment you are keeping the steering knuckle(block) as low as possible in the castor block, but then using the lower hole to attach it to the wishbone, to raise it again.
wish i could draw a picture

word for word from chris`s Holy Bible (setup booklet

if built as kit instructions you will get very agressive steering mid corner,good for japans hightraction tracks,but i find the following better for the UK

When assembling the steering hub to the castor block,Don`t place the spacer supplied in the kit under the castor block. instead use no spacer at the bottom and use the supplied blue 1mm thick spacer with 3mm hole(sd-300s), and the black 0.5mm spacer with the 4mm hole above the steering block.As the diagram show`s the 1mm spacer goes on top of the steering block,with the 0.5mm spacer on top of the blue spacer. when mounting the complete castor block to the car use the bottom holes in castor blocks


Damn you adyb for making me type that lot out
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You should ask Chris to come on here occasionally, it would be great to get tips from someone like that on here.
The support from Team Yokomo sucks.

At the Japan Nats, again the team had new parts on their cars but NO feedback to the normal people that run Yokomo cars. On the set up sheet that was posted the only thing I could understand was the word CGM, so they are using CGM parts on their BD's, and using the standard rear shock tower and not the BDM one.

Go onto the Losi thread and Todd Hodge is answering questions, for us on this thread there is no posts from Team Yokomo drivers. Where is the support from Billy, Masami, Chris, not here for us.

Even the Yokomo home page is a waste of space (unless you have a drift car), I may get flamed for this post but I would like my BD to be on the cutting edge of Yokomo development but it's just not happening.

Anyway that enough from me, back to try and translate that setup sheet.
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rhys youve been driving yokomo for a while now, and your telling me you havnt taken japanese as a language course.
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Yeah I did at primary school, I can count to 10 and say hi and goodbye.
It is my dream to race overseas one day, I'm young enough to maybe have that dream come true, but some understanding as to what they are doing to the cars and why would be good to know.
Yeah we can do all the basic stuff like shocks, roll centres and the like but some yokomo secerets would be great to know.
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noob question... what does front kick-up do again? added a spacer to the front suspension mount.
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noob question... what does front kick-up do again? added a spacer to the front suspension mount.
Less traction in
more traction mid to exit
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Less traction in
more traction mid to exit

that's a good thing right? on power steering?
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that's a good thing right? on power steering?
yes on power scenerio
But still must have balence fron front to rear
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The support from Team Yokomo sucks.

At the Japan Nats, again the team had new parts on their cars but NO feedback to the normal people that run Yokomo cars. On the set up sheet that was posted the only thing I could understand was the word CGM, so they are using CGM parts on their BD's, and using the standard rear shock tower and not the BDM one.

Go onto the Losi thread and Todd Hodge is answering questions, for us on this thread there is no posts from Team Yokomo drivers. Where is the support from Billy, Masami, Chris, not here for us.

Even the Yokomo home page is a waste of space (unless you have a drift car), I may get flamed for this post but I would like my BD to be on the cutting edge of Yokomo development but it's just not happening.

Anyway that enough from me, back to try and translate that setup sheet.
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I have to say the Yokomo support for all the drivers out there is not great, and we need to improve it, The trouble is everyone at Yokomo apart from Robert and Masami speak terrible English! And Masami is very busy. I am lucky to have a Japanese speaking Girlfriend to help me out!!! when Umino sends me a set up to try I have all the same problems you have understanding what they mean.

I have to say I don't get a great deal of time near a PC, my day job keeps me outside and with all the racing I do, Time is not on my side or I would write more.

Ok what you want to know? Japan nats we ran a " out the box" BDM, that's the Masamis spec kit, with a std rear tower, CGM steering bellcranks, and MR4tc caster blocks

The bellcranks are longer so give a longer throw, there was really nothing special on Masamis car.

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Hey Chris
Thanks for your post nice to see someone from Yok respond on Here....not sure but that might be a first for Yok on RCtech.

I'm in states and running the BDM on carpet with foams...and finding a good consistant setup is a bit hard, think the hardest part is setting the shocks to react correctly. I've switched springs to Corally they fit perfectly and give a good range of choices. The next challenge is getting the car not to push on entry.

I am aware the car is not uber foam tire friendly and isn't not the most accepted car in the states but trying my best to stand behind it since I think the car has a ton of potential that has not been put out in the open.

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I have to say the Yokomo support for all the drivers out there is not great, and we need to improve it, The trouble is everyone at Yokomo apart from Robert and Masami speak terrible English! And Masami is very busy. I am lucky to have a Japanese speaking Girlfriend to help me out!!! when Umino sends me a set up to try I have all the same problems you have understanding what they mean.

I have to say I don't get a great deal of time near a PC, my day job keeps me outside and with all the racing I do, Time is not on my side or I would write more.

Ok what you want to know? Japan nats we ran a " out the box" BDM, that's the Masamis spec kit, with a std rear tower, CGM steering bellcranks, and MR4tc caster blocks

The bellcranks are longer so give a longer throw, there was really nothing special on Masamis car.

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is there any chance of getting that seup sheet in english thanks.
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Thanks for the response Chris. Would it be possible to detail how the CGM steering was used on the BD at all?

I can instantly think of one advantage of the CGM rack, no more fragile ackerman plate!
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v0rtex....look at the pic. Basically explains itself. You still use the ackerman plate.

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Oh. Damn.

Whats the benefit of the CGM bellcranks then?
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