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Old 08-22-2006, 02:28 AM   #5866
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hi there. new to the thread. just got a 2nd hand unit off a friend.
anyway, was looking for set-up sheets, was wondering if anyone could point me to some (asphalt racing) that are in english? so far all i've seen is the Masamai set-up sheet but its for carpet. the ones at the yok jap site are in japanese and i can't understand anything.

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btw, are the belts from the MSX, Cyclone and BD interchangable? cars look like they have very similar layouts...

another question... will the yokomo LCG front dogbones fot the BD?
try cml distribution ltd for setup belts not interchangeable
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Old 08-22-2006, 04:07 AM   #5867
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Not sure about Cyclone belts, but MSX belts have about 8-10 teeth less than BD belts
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Old 08-22-2006, 05:21 AM   #5868
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I havnt made the decision yet. Im working on some other parts that i will test asap but its finding the time to design the parts and finding someone who has a CNC machine.
IM interested, if you make them!
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Old 08-22-2006, 03:14 PM   #5869
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A couple of my friends have been running the Yokomo BD's for a about 3 weeks now. We run on outside asphalt track, mixed, hot weather, running CS-27 tires, and NOvak 4.5R. They seem to be having a lot of understerring pblms on corner entry and corner exit. They have tried all kinds of things and the car is still not working as they'd like. Anyone know of a good set-up for asphalt track, hot weather, rubber tires, low to mid traction? Also please give us some set up tips to give the car the most steering possible for LOW-MED traction outdoor asphalt track. He is currently using a one way and diff, and has tried lots of things, but none seems to help, to the point they're thinking of selling the cars and getting Cyclones or something else- I have assured them that the car will work, but they need to work on their set up- there must be something wrong they have not looked at. Please help me hlep them, as the cars are awesome and I'm sure it too can have lots of steering if set up correctly. So please...what set ups do you recommend to get the car more steering up front?
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Old 08-22-2006, 03:22 PM   #5870
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Post there current setups and then we can help better, theres a million different ways to get more steering.
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Old 08-22-2006, 04:17 PM   #5871
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Here is the current set-up they have running on asphalt track, low-med traction, rubber tires, mixed.

Drive train: one way, front, ball diff in rear.
Anti-Roll Bars: none
Steering block: 1 Deg offset in front,
Hub Carrier: 0 Deg in rear
Camber: F- 1.5 Deg, R- 2.0
Toe: F- toe out 1 deg, R- 2.0 toe in
Droop: F-4 , R- 4
Suspension Arm Position: Front:F-4mm, R-0mm; Rear: F-2mm, R-2mm
Shocks: F&R SSS body, short, 62mm
Oil: F&R 30wt
Springs: F-White, R-Stock blue
Pistons: F&R, 2 hole
Bump Stop: F-1, R-1
Shock Tower Position: F-2 hole, R-3 hole
Camber links: Front: 1mm under ball stud in inner link on bulk head; REAR: none under ballstud on inner camber link on bulkhead.
Upper Camber link: F-2nd hole, R- 2nd hole
A-Arm shock position: F- middle hole, R- inner most hole
Ride Height: F- 5.5mm, R-5.5mm
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Old 08-22-2006, 05:15 PM   #5872
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Sounds like its close to kit setup to me with the exception of rear toe & wheelbase.

Try softer front springs, harder rear springs, kit rear sway bar and go in one hole on the front shock tower. Those are the obivious initial things you can try. After that you can try SDW front arms too. Obviously only change one thing at a time.

If the weather is hot and tires are open, you could go to a harder compound of tire all around - something like a CS32. How old are the tires they're using? CS27s tend to drop off after 6 or 8 runs in Mod..

Also, how experienced are they with high powered motors? It could be the fact that they're simply trying to drive them too fast and causing understeer.
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Old 08-22-2006, 06:09 PM   #5873
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Vortex! Thanks for your input. Will give them a try and report back. The CS27's are worn but good enough to try out settings and get car dialed. And what are the SDW arms?
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SDW arms are the front arms from the old(now) Shaft Drive Worlds car which are slightly narrower than the regular BD arms. They provide more steering than the regular arms because of the narrower track width at the front.
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or you can try:

yellow spring in the front, blue or white in the rear.
3 hole piston with 40wt front, 35 rear.
0.5 ~ 0 front toe.
move front shock toward inside.
move rear shock all the way to the outside last hole.
silver sway bar front, none in rear
Suspension Arm Position: Front:F-4mm, R-0mm; Rear: F-4mm, R-0mm.
move the link to the 1st hole on the steering plate.
change your tire to semi use.. sometimes worn out tire has little grip left.
this is like my spool setup.. oneway.. I just suck at it!

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Old 08-23-2006, 01:07 AM   #5876
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Remember

Tire, Insert, Bodies, Springs have the biggest effect on car steering.
Pls try Sorex36r, 039M insert, Protoform M6 body, F/R HPI silver spring. Other setting just fine tune to suitable your driving style. Hope this help.
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Old 08-23-2006, 11:15 AM   #5877
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What is the steering position on the ackerman plate?
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Old 08-23-2006, 07:58 PM   #5878
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The first hole in front
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Old 08-23-2006, 10:26 PM   #5879
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noticed a but of upward play on the steerng posts. is this normal?
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noticed a but of upward play on the steerng posts. is this normal?
yes, but you can shim it out. The manual specifies putting some spacers in there on top of the top bearing so it has less slop.
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